13:01:52 #startmeeting CIP IRC weekly meeting 13:01:52 Meeting started Thu Nov 16 13:01:52 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:52 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:01:52 The meeting name has been set to 'cip_irc_weekly_meeting' 13:02:02 #topic AI review 13:02:10 nothing in my logs 13:02:26 moving directly on... 13:02:34 #topic Kernel maintenance updates 13:02:54 i'm reviewing 6.1.63 13:02:57 This week reported 4 new CVEs and 0 updated CVEs. 13:03:06 I am reviewing 6.1.63-rc. 13:03:28 I was reviewing AUTOSEL, now reviewing 6.1.63. 13:06:56 more topics? 13:07:35 5 13:07:37 4 13:07:38 3 13:07:40 2 13:07:42 1 13:07:45 #topic Kernel release status 13:07:51 4.4 13:07:54 on track 13:08:06 4.4-rt and 4.19-rt is ok. 13:08:28 4.19 13:08:32 on track 13:08:56 5.10 13:09:20 on track 13:09:24 5.10-rt is due in 3 days. Unfortunately, we do not have good match, -cip is on 5.10.200 and -rt is on 5.10.199 13:09:35 I asked for 5.10.200-rt, but no reply so far. 13:10:10 I can probably mix -cipi-rt from what we have, if they don't respond. 13:10:22 that was my thought as well 13:11:04 6.1 13:11:10 on track 13:11:28 -rt is due in 13 days, so I'm looking for suitable -rt. 13:11:43 okay... 13:12:52 #topic Kernel testing 13:14:15 no Chris, no topics? :) 13:14:19 well 13:15:02 me, crhis and sietze are meeting next tuesday to discuss some things including utilizing SQUAD for testing 13:15:19 great 13:15:43 we have some outage in our lab, to be fixed the next days 13:16:24 ah hope it isn't too bad 13:16:56 temporary lab using temporary hardware - you get what you asked for... 13:17:14 yep xD that is true 13:18:12 ok, if there are no other testing topics... 13:18:21 5 13:18:23 4 13:18:24 3 13:18:26 2 13:18:27 1 13:18:30 #topic AOB 13:18:42 I actually have two by now 13:19:01 who of CIP will participate in the RT Project meeting next Monday? 13:19:18 what is the RT project? 13:19:30 preempt-rt project 13:19:43 ah okay 13:19:53 CIP is a member, funding the upstreaming and maintenance 13:19:54 next monday? 13:19:58 If that's remote, I can likely do it. 13:20:33 aha, ok. I am going to join it. 13:20:42 we as Siemens are member as well, but I'm flying, and all colleagues are I asked are blocked 13:21:07 it's 18:00 CET - might be mid of the night for you, iwamatsu-san ;) 13:21:36 hehe, but it is no problem for me. 13:21:42 :-) 13:21:45 anyway, not only Siemens, I guess also CIP would be very interested now what is the reason that 6.7 didn't got -rt 13:21:57 printk was apparently merged, the last official blocker 13:22:33 jki: Well, my impression is that -rt is "always" going to be in the next kernel. Becuase that's just a lot of work. 13:22:50 that was not what was communicated recently 13:23:04 jki: Yes, it will be interesting to know the reasons, but it is really quite big project. 13:23:29 no, for mainline to flip the config options, it's not that big anymore 13:23:41 sure, there will be further optimizations needed afterwards 13:24:04 but we are looking for remaining functional blockers - if any 13:24:38 and CIP, we do not want to maintain our next SLTS kernel in two flavours anymore 13:25:07 jki: We still likely will have to :-). preempt-rt being enabled != preempt-rt being enabled for everything we care about. 13:25:21 so, also the path to get major optimizations resolved over the upcoming releases would be important 13:25:57 (Ok, if the patches are small we can just ship rt-patched kernel and call it "cip"). 13:25:57 well, let's see, at least ask for it and hopefully get answer 13:26:26 So there will likely be explanations, and likely people will be asking. 13:26:42 There will meeting minutes, I'm sure; I guess you'll get those? 13:26:53 sure, but those are not interactive ;) 13:27:28 Yep. I guess, as uusual, half of the meeting will be "why we are not merged, yet". 13:27:32 If not, I can ask :-). 13:28:10 But I doubt it will make much difference in the long run. 13:28:26 What may make the difference -- we could try to influence priority of the architectures. 13:29:00 for CIP, we basically need a roudmap towards end of 2024 13:29:14 2024 LTS 13:29:19 ok, thanks! 13:29:31 Ok, I'll try to keep that in mind. 13:30:14 second topic: I'm traveling towards East, and I will likely not be available the next two weeks at our normal slots 13:30:54 actually, next 3: I'll be flying back from OSS J then :) 13:31:12 would anyone be able to jump in? first for next week? 13:31:20 I can do next week. 13:31:58 perfect, thanks already! 13:32:38 anyone with other topics? 13:32:58 There's cool new x86 vulnerability. 13:33:00 CVE-2023-23583. 13:33:24 isn't that ucore-mitigated already? 13:33:58 Not sure. This is the 'rex rep movsb', and yes, it should be fixed in microcode. 13:33:59 rep rex movsb :) 13:34:12 exactly 13:34:26 Aha, so that's old news then :-). 13:34:32 I'm not aware of OS measures / mitigations, except for loading that ucode 13:34:42 ack. 13:35:02 it's also not affecting all types of Intel CPUs 13:35:10 "just" some more recent generations 13:36:14 ok - anything else? 13:36:32 5 13:36:34 4 13:36:36 3 13:36:37 2 13:36:39 1 13:36:40 #endmeeting