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16:06:28 <colindixon> #topic roll call and agenda bash
16:06:36 <colindixon> #info colin, denise and casey are here
16:07:52 <colindixon> #info the plan is to first review Denise's new getting started guide a bit
16:08:46 <colindixon> #topic new getting started guide
16:08:52 * zxiiro is here
16:09:12 <colindixon> #info this version doesn't go into tons of detail about karaf or other things
16:12:12 <colindixon> #info it's likely better suited to the gaps we currently have
16:12:35 <anipbu> Sorry folks, I have to step out at 8:15, but I'll review the meeting minutes afterwards.
16:12:47 <colindixon> anipbu, zxiiro: it's all good, thanks for coming
16:14:29 <colindixon> #info denise asks how to deal with projects vs. features, colindixon says that he'd like to see us avoid talking about projects to users and focus only on features
16:14:50 <colindixon> #info this is the same as linux package managers, a single "project" may produce multiple packages, but users don't need to care
16:16:27 <colindixon> #info charles la voy, zxiiro and anipbu are also atending now
16:16:56 <colindixon> #info colindixon says that probably the level of detail about java and karaf and osgi is just how to install java
16:19:01 <colindixon> #topic action items from last week
16:19:41 <colindixon> #info I *think* we can't require that projects auto-generate their own maven sites and java doc for this release, we could *maybe* ask zxiiro to make the changes everywhere, but even that's a stretch at this point
16:20:00 <colindixon> zxiiro: did you do this "zxiiro to talk to yangtools about removing maven 3.1 support to get this merged and then find a second project that we could play with, likely mdsal"
16:20:24 <zxiiro> colindixon: no, I've had no time to work on this in the past week
16:20:35 <colindixon> zxiiro: no worries
16:21:28 <colindixon> #action zxiiro to talk to yangtools about removing maven 3.1 support to get this merged and then find a second project that we could play with, likely mdsal
16:21:29 <colindixon> #action colindixon to add being able to auto-generate YANG RE this as a requirment for Boron
16:21:30 <colindixon> #action colindixon to try to work on getting project categorization for this page https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_list
16:21:34 <colindixon> #topic back to getting started guide
16:23:19 <colindixon> #info denise asks if we can really avoid mentioning Karaf, colindixon says probably not, but we should acknoweldge it as little as possible, basically say "karaf is a runtime that makes managing java applications easier including providing features that act like packages in linux—OpenDaylight provides most of it's fucntioanlity as karaf features."
16:24:31 <colindixon> #info colindixon tells denise if ignoring projects is wrong, acknowlege that they exist and it's where features come from, but that it shouldn't matter too much for end-users, but might help when filing bugs or looking for more information
16:24:47 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that features should be named old-<projectname>-<featurename>
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16:25:12 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that features should be named odl-<projectname>-<featurename>
16:25:34 <colindixon> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IA31oRAEO155fygbENCYb6QKKTg7G5lxtSlBOusXvNc/edit?usp=sharing current docuemntat is here
16:26:45 <colindixon> #undo
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16:26:55 <colindixon> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IA31oRAEO155fygbENCYb6QKKTg7G5lxtSlBOusXvNc/edit?usp=sharing current document is here
16:30:03 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Documentation colindixon added a link from here to the downloads page where the current docs are, it might make more sense to point to docucentral later
16:30:23 <colindixon> #acrtion https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Docucentral colindixon to work with casey to start to populate this
16:30:27 <colindixon> #action https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Docucentral colindixon to work with casey to start to populate this
16:30:54 <colindixon> #endmeeting