20:10:24 <regXboi> #startmeeting
20:10:24 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 20 20:10:24 2014 UTC.  The chair is regXboi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:10:40 <dconde> we''re starting real soon
20:10:47 <dconde> now operational
20:10:49 <dconde> starting now.
20:10:53 <RobDolin> Anyone else hit an issue with connecting to the WebEx ?
20:11:00 <regXboi> #topic minutes from last meeting
20:11:17 <regXboi> #link http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-group-policy/2014/opendaylight-group-policy.2014-03-13-20.03.html
20:11:36 <RobDolin> I'm now in the WebEx.
20:11:48 <regXboi> people, please #info in if you are attending
20:11:54 <regXboi> #info Ryan Moats (regXboi)
20:11:59 <tbachman> #info Thomas Bachman (tbachman)
20:12:33 <dconde> @RobDolin please see the URL above
20:12:48 <dconde> I can send it again
20:12:53 <raghu67> #info Raghurama Bhat (raghu67)
20:13:06 <dconde> https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/#/meetings/detail?uuid=M4PO9GTADM5ZZWKPF30D5WC98O-9VIB
20:13:12 <dconde> here it goes.
20:13:57 <regXboi> for all who missed it - webex recording has started
20:14:14 <regXboi> #info discussion of read-only on project wiki page
20:14:25 <dconde> #action for DConde is to create a Gdoc with Use Cases
20:14:38 <RobDolin> #info Rob Dolin (RobDolin)
20:14:39 <regXboi> #info it is not possible to mark project page read-only, best is we can track and follow
20:14:44 <dconde> #action and link from main Wiki to the Use Case gDoc
20:15:57 <regXboi> #info signup for action items
20:16:32 <tbachman> should we add in the link?
20:16:39 <regXboi> please
20:17:10 <regXboi> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Group_Based_Policy_Plugin#Design_Tasks
20:17:11 <dconde> #Info Architectural considerations assigned to Ryan and Mike -- this is item #1
20:17:19 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Group_Based_Policy_Plugin
20:17:30 <tbachman> ah
20:17:35 <tbachman> regXboi: beat me to it
20:17:37 <tbachman> sorry :)
20:18:04 <dconde> ryan?
20:18:51 <dconde> #info repeating previous one is really @regxboi and @dvorkinita
20:21:18 <dconde> #agreed we will help MD-SAL owners
20:21:49 <dconde> #topic Model
20:22:43 <dconde> #agreed we create subgroup to split model. @dvorkinista and  regxboi and Dolan
20:24:18 <dconde> #agreed to add Mickey and Derek from Plexxi
20:24:37 <dconde> #agreed add s3wong
20:24:44 <regXboi> that was odd
20:24:47 <regXboi> and not fun
20:24:50 <regXboi> but I am back
20:25:01 <s3wong> cool
20:25:01 <dconde> #info we will review in these weekly meeting but we will have checkpoint meetings for details outside the weekly.
20:25:28 <dconde> the purpose is to refine the model and to follow-up reviews.
20:25:46 <dconde> the scope of the model in a wider forum.
20:25:52 <dconde> but smaller group will work on details.
20:26:20 <s3wong> dconde: Dolan should be RobDolin
20:26:21 <dconde> alagalah says if we have serious objections it should have been aired already.
20:26:28 <RobDolin> Lost my IRC connection around 1:19pm (Pacific), back now
20:26:39 <RobDolin> @s3wong - Thanks :)
20:27:31 <dconde> #topic TOpic 3 is subscribe
20:27:40 <dconde> #info it means how to subscribe to MD-SAL
20:27:48 <regXboi> #topic handing how subscribe topic
20:27:51 <dconde> renderers is an arch hashout.
20:28:10 <lenrow> I would also like to work on #2 Model
20:28:26 <dconde> renderers subscribe to things.
20:28:38 <dconde> and renderers down to substrate
20:28:43 <alagalah> dconde:
20:28:53 <alagalah> Did you get an agreement on #2
20:28:57 <regXboi> oh ah...
20:29:00 <regXboi> I see part of it
20:29:02 <regXboi> n/m
20:29:05 <alagalah> ack
20:29:16 <dconde> Alagala we agreed that we split into subgroups.
20:29:23 <alagalah> cool
20:29:25 <dconde> #agreed on topic 2 to get subgroups.
20:29:53 <s3wong> alagalah: I think dconde listed the members of the model subgroup above
20:29:59 <alagalah> ack
20:30:16 <regXboi> I'll check the minutes and if it's missing, we'll catch it next meeting
20:30:16 <dconde> #topic 3 NB APIs
20:30:30 <dconde> #info we should  have separate API discussion.
20:30:36 <regXboi> #topic handing out NB APIs
20:30:47 <dconde> #info topic 3 and 4 falls into architecture.
20:30:51 <regXboi> dconde: it turns out that only I can #topic as the chair :(
20:31:09 <dconde> #info 3, 4, 5 are architetural
20:31:37 <raghu67> I would like to work on #6 as my team is already doing some work on ODL Host Tracker liker porting to MD-SAL
20:31:37 <dconde> #info redo 3,4 as architectural as MD-SAL in today's thinking
20:32:31 <dconde> we need to set up requirements and choose what is possible and what is not in MD-SAL
20:32:32 <s3wong> if 5 isn't architectural, I can take that (though the repo may still be linked to MD-SAL?)
20:33:18 <dconde> #info maybe we need to pull more people into MD-SAL.
20:33:34 <dconde> #info we can learn MD-SAL. It's Yang (that part is easy)
20:33:43 <dconde> the hard part is the implementation
20:34:39 <dconde> Prasad is also in on MD-SAL
20:34:58 <dconde> dvorkinista is on 5
20:35:06 <dconde> which is the policy repsitory.
20:35:17 <dconde> s3wong is on 5
20:35:30 <dconde> topic changes to EP R egistry.
20:35:33 <regXboi> #agreed 5 is dvorkinista and s3wong
20:35:40 <dconde> topic is no. 6 now.
20:35:42 <regXboi> #topic changes to EP Registry
20:36:19 <dconde> big intersection between EP and GBP Repo
20:36:24 <dconde> so it needs to be same people;
20:36:32 <dconde> cannot be designed disjointly.
20:36:42 <raghu67> I would like to be involved in both then
20:36:56 <s3wong> raghu67: of course, thanks!
20:37:16 <dconde> topic 7 is NBI
20:37:27 <regXboi> #topic impl method/proc
20:37:29 <dconde> we are now n topic 8
20:37:33 <regXboi> #info this is NBI
20:37:38 <regXboi> #topic datastore
20:37:49 * regXboi looks at the wall quietly
20:38:23 <dconde> who knows datastore well.
20:38:34 <dconde> someone who knows scalable distributed datastore
20:39:04 <lenrow> Ready, Fire, Aim
20:39:46 <dconde> #info datastore has questions (a) are we going to use the MD-SAL? only because it has API Requirements on the Datastore
20:40:00 <dconde> (b) how are we going to implement it. shall we use off the shelf stuff?
20:40:22 <dconde> dvorkinista says we need to use a SUITABLE datastore. don't just use Cassandra just because it's there.
20:40:40 <lenrow> Is it safe to assume that AD-SAL is here forever and that ODL as a platform isn't moving to MD-SAL? Is this a GBP decision or ODL decision?
20:40:42 <dconde> anyone with experience?
20:41:30 <dconde> regxboi and s3wong and hemand and dvorkinista are on it.
20:41:43 <dconde> s/hemand/hemant/
20:41:47 <dconde> on topic 9
20:41:50 <regXboi> #agreed regxboi and s3wong and hemant and dvorkinista are on 8
20:42:07 <dconde> operational state  - stats and faults.
20:42:21 <regXboi> #topic operational state - stats, faults
20:42:29 <dconde> it is landing on regxboi
20:42:34 <dconde> #agreed for regxboi.
20:42:41 <dconde> anyone else?
20:42:48 <dconde> we need more hats.
20:43:04 <dconde> #agreed for raghu67 to be on it.
20:43:07 <raghu67> #info raghu67 can be part of 9
20:43:30 <dconde> regxboi says we need a real auditing framework into controller and leverage it.
20:43:42 <dconde> dvorkinista says how it makes sense in what we are building?
20:44:09 <raghu67> #info 9 seems to be general to entire ODL and not specific to GBP
20:44:13 <dconde> #info oops we have two item 2.
20:44:17 <regXboi> #topic conflict box
20:44:30 <dconde> topic is now 10
20:44:36 <dconde> who is doing renderers
20:44:45 <dconde> how it works, responsibilities,
20:44:57 <dconde> sitting on the domain substrate
20:45:30 <dconde> #info mickey says two renderers. Native vs. general
20:45:45 <dconde> affinity is ONE renderer.
20:45:48 <dconde> of many.
20:46:10 <lenrow> I will work on 10 Also
20:46:12 <dconde> it's kind of related to policy and operational stuff
20:46:36 <dconde> #agreed dlenrow takes that
20:46:42 <regXboi> #info topic includes renders
20:46:46 <dconde> #agreed lender takes that.
20:46:48 <regXboi> er #info that is renderers
20:47:02 <dconde> sorry. autocorrect messing with me
20:47:08 <dconde> #agreed lenrow takes that.
20:47:45 <dconde> regxboi ask mickey what is promised?
20:47:57 <dconde> so we can put in placeholders.
20:48:03 <dconde> Mickey will talk w/ regxboi
20:48:20 <dconde> prasad is on rendering
20:48:26 <RobDolin> I need to drop to walk to another building for a 2pm.  :(
20:48:27 <dconde> #info prasad is on rendering
20:48:36 <RobDolin> I'll look forward to reading the minutes.
20:48:47 <regXboi> no kidding - these are going to be schizo
20:49:14 <lenrow> Any plans to use F2F time at Hackfest Napa?
20:49:26 <dconde> DConde will assign people per action items as listed above.
20:49:39 <dconde> and figure out meetings which are separate from these weekly meetings.
20:49:54 <dconde> intention will be that this weekly meeting is a status update.
20:49:58 <regXboi> #topic this meeting going forward
20:50:00 <s3wong> lenrow: it conflicts with OVS hackathon, so I won't be at Napa for ODL hackfest
20:50:08 <regXboi> #info this meeting will be status updstes
20:50:11 <dconde> in a passive/aggressive way, this meeting becomes meaningless.
20:50:12 <regXboi> #info updates
20:50:25 <lenrow> That was unfortunate hackathon collision
20:50:28 <regXboi> #topic hackfest
20:51:09 <regXboi> #info do we want to try to have a breakout at the hackfest
20:51:22 <regXboi> #info do we want to cancel next week's call for the hackfest?
20:51:28 <raghu67> #info I will be at the Napa Hackfest on both days
20:51:38 <s3wong> +1 for canceling next week's meeting
20:52:06 <dconde> #agreed next week meeting is canceled
20:52:07 <raghu67> +1 for cancelling next weeks meeting and having a breakout session at Napa
20:52:13 <lenrow> +1 Cancel next call
20:52:38 <lenrow> Aim for Thursday Napa GBP Arch breakout?
20:52:38 <regXboi> #action alagalah to answer networkstatic's email to discuss list on standing meet time and channel
20:52:54 <regXboi> #action alagalah to update wiki page with next week meeting cancelled
20:54:01 <dconde> #info we realize the hackfest schedule is still loose
20:54:12 <dconde> #info Thurs seems best for breakout?
20:54:18 <regXboi> #info regXboi will not be physically at the hackfest, will be virtual
20:55:25 <dconde> we are discussing Cricket now.
20:55:33 <regXboi> #endmeeting