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#opendaylight-meeting: tsc
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Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:13 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-03-19-17.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call and agenda bashing (colindixon, 17:00:20)
* colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:30)
* regXboi (regXboi, 17:00:42)
* LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda agenda in
it’s usual place (colindixon, 17:00:47)
* alagalah_ for Jan Medved (alagalah_, 17:00:48)
* LINK:
https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-03-12-17.00.html
Minutes from last week’s meeting (tbachman, 17:01:05)
* Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:01:24)
* edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:01:35)
* ACTION: colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between
VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?) (colindixon,
17:01:52)
* ACTION: colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive
(colindixon, 17:02:05)
* zxiiro sent an mail about setting up opt-in/opt-out automatic
version bump patches and tags (tbachman, 17:02:39)
* gzhao sent e-mail the release list with a precise time at which we
will cut the SR3 test artifacts (tbachman, 17:03:00)
* dlenrow (dlenrow, 17:03:45)
* LINK: https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2826 <- bug for
SingleFeatureTest warm cache issue (edwarnicke, 17:03:50)
* colindixon added use cases to the topic list for this week, and
emailed list (tbachman, 17:04:11)
* ACTION: gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to
release and tsc lists for M3 and M4 (offset 0 only) (colindixon,
17:04:22)
* ACTION: phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA (colindixon,
17:04:43)
* regXboi sent list out things that would hugely help people and how
they work with ODL in a dashboard, and sent an email to discuss
(tbachman, 17:04:44)
* mohnish anumala (mohnish, 17:04:55)
* ACTION: phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 2 projects not yet
in JJB: plugin2oc, defense4all (tbachman, 17:06:25)
* LINK:
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Vulnerability_Management <-
draft security process (regXboi, 17:06:45)
* regXboi translated google md doc to wikipage (tbachman, 17:07:03)
* ACTION: rovarga (with help from Thanh) to work on tracking latency
from merge to all CSIT (colindixon, 17:07:38)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-March/004867.html
<- thread on ODL dashboard in discuss (regXboi, 17:07:47)
* LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:08:07)
* ACTION: dlenrow to send mail to relase, persistence-dev, and tsc
describing the issue and possible solutions for discussion
(colindixon, 17:09:44)
* Updates (tbachman, 17:10:48)
* LINK: http://www.opendaylight.org/news/events << Events page on ODL
Website (phrobb, 17:10:55)
* colindixon asks if the above is an issue for folks (deferring to
email list for discussion potentially at next TSC) and silence is
acquiescence. (alagalah_, 17:10:56)
* phrobb says hackfest has 37 people registered, but expects lots more
to attend (urges folks to register) (tbachman, 17:11:28)
* phrobb says there’s an NFV World Congress on May 5th. CFP is out for
that now (tbachman, 17:11:41)
* phrobb says they’ll be sending out a CFP for ONS in June
(colindixon, 17:12:35)
* colindixon asks when speakers will be informed abuot talks at
openstack summit (tbachman, 17:13:08)
* phrobb thinks it’s soon, but isn’t sure (tbachman, 17:13:16)
* regXboi makes a general request (not events) for projects to add
list archive link to their main page (possibly in the project box)?
(regXboi, 17:13:41)
* LINK:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PYxjiSYEks44uJByVO1P44rnI5xTJRulpKyrSsDQF9g/edit#gid=347238944
(gzhao, 17:13:53)
* Helium SR3 (colindixon, 17:13:59)
* LINK: :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PYxjiSYEks44uJByVO1P44rnI5xTJRulpKyrSsDQF9g/edit#gid=347238944
Spreadsheet for tracking bugs for SR3 (tbachman, 17:14:12)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002742.html
LISP flow mapping is asking for a respin (regXboi, 17:15:06)
* colindixon asks whether the TSC should allow the respin (tbachman,
17:15:57)
* edwarnicke asks what are the counterbalancing things that go into
the decision (tbachman, 17:16:06)
* lori says there’s a user that’s submitted this interoperability
issue with external software (tbachman, 17:16:32)
* lori says this would significantly delay productization with ODL for
this product (tbachman, 17:16:51)
* lori says the July time frame is too long for that (tbachman,
17:17:04)
* colindixon asks if there’s a mechanism to cherry pick that local
patch (tbachman, 17:17:11)
* lori says there’s someone else in the company that’s brought this to
ODL (tbachman, 17:17:23)
* edwarnicke asks what is the nature and severity of the bug
(tbachman, 17:17:35)
* LINK: https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2871 the bug in
question (colindixon, 17:17:46)
* lori says LISP is providing the mapping service, and for that to
happen, you can register mappings to the northbound or the
southbound (tbachman, 17:17:54)
* LINK: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/16798/ the patch
(colindixon, 17:17:56)
* lori says the authentication on the southbound fails b/c they aren’t
correctly serializing some of the data (tbachman, 17:18:09)
* lori says there’s a protocol extension that’s not an RFC yet but is
widely used; when this extension is used, this bug occurs
(tbachman, 17:18:35)
* colindixon asks for more input from TSC members (tbachman,
17:18:42)
* LuisGomez says from what he hears, this is not a critical bug
(tbachman, 17:18:59)
* regXboi says +1 to LuisGomez (tbachman, 17:19:06)
* colindixon asks for more input, before putting this to a vote
whether to bless the SR3 release (tbachman, 17:19:51)
* colindixon asks if there’s someone on the call who can speak as to
why this patch can’t be cherry-picked for their release (tbachman,
17:20:42)
* Saurabh says the only reason is that when you go to the
end-customer, they expect it to be a standard release, not one with
a patch (tbachman, 17:21:41)
* colindixon asks if the TSC feels they have enough information to
vote on the SR3 artifacts now, or delay a week (tbachman, 17:22:15)
* mohnish says this may be setting a precedent for future SR releases
— if we find a bug, what will we do (tbachman, 17:23:33)
* ChrisPriceAB says that if we find a bug in a stable release, he
usually asks if it blocks the release that stable is based on, and
if not, they go for it (tbachman, 17:24:10)
* edwarnicke says one of our principles is that we like our stable
releases to be more stable than past releases; asks if this is a new
bug, or has it always been there (tbachman, 17:24:48)
* slight correction, if it blocks the functionality of the stable
release we go ahead with it. (ChrisPriceAB, 17:24:54)
* lori says this bug has been there (tbachman, 17:25:14)
* VOTE: Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the release of Helium SR3?"
Results are, 0: 1, +1: 7 (phrobb, 17:26:25)
* AGREED: The TSC has approved the release of Helium SR3 (phrobb,
17:26:40)
* edwarnicke says this is an existing bug, not introduced by Helium
SR2 (gzhao, 17:27:00)
* colindixon offers Saurabh help for cherry-picking patches needed
(tbachman, 17:27:07)
* LuisGomez asks if there’s a single place what are blockers for a
release, so that people can search there and look to see blockers
(tbachman, 17:27:33)
* ACTION: LuisGomez to start drafting a list of qualifiers for an
issue for being a blocker to an SR - edwarnicke to assist (regXboi,
17:28:04)
* Lithium (tbachman, 17:28:54)
* gzhao says PCMM changed from yellow to green; only Maple is not
green (tbachman, 17:29:26)
* last week 3 projects changed status, ALTO changed from red to green,
packetcable changes from yellow to green (for M2 in both cases)
(colindixon, 17:29:27)
* NeutronNorthbound changed from yellow to green for M3 (offset 1)
(regXboi, 17:29:49)
* gzhao says there are 6 projects in yellow, with more to come after
today’s M3 (tbachman, 17:30:44)
* gzhao says that currently we have 6 projects in yellow and he
expects that to grow, he says many projects are 1-2 weeks behind,
and 4 projects have yet to report (colindixon, 17:30:59)
* regXboi says there is a TON of documentation behind M3 (regXboi,
17:32:04)
* rovarga says some of the concerns coming from yangtools and
controller are due to lack of resources; hope to make this up in the
run-up to M5 (tbachman, 17:32:39)
* ttkacik1 says the problem wasn’t too much paperwork, but that it
wasn’t obvious (“hiddenâ€) what/how much needed to be done
(tbachman, 17:33:53)
* colindixon urges projects to be honest in their reporting and do
their best to get through this — TSC is willing to work with
projects that are reasonable and are working towards these goals
(tbachman, 17:34:22)
* zxiiro asks about stable/helium and Lithium (tbachman, 17:35:12)
* opt-out from auto version bumping (colindixon, 17:35:25)
* zxiiro says he sent the opt-out email earlier this week; no projects
have responded, indicating opt-out; asks if we can version-bump now,
or wait until M4 (tbachman, 17:35:47)
* rovarga says he’s seen the email, but hasn’t had time to address
this yet; asks for another 2-3 days (tbachman, 17:36:02)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-March/001652.html
the mail asking people to opt-out if they want to (colindixon,
17:36:10)
* mohnish asks if projects should list “at-risk†features during M<n>
milestones (tbachman, 17:37:05)
* colindixon says that’s what he hopes phrobb and gzhao will do with
their summary in the next few days (colindixon, 17:38:18)
* lithium auto-release and super-pom-based building (colindixon,
17:38:58)
* ACTION: rovarga and zxiiro to work on this for another week and
bring it to the TSC then if need be (colindixon, 17:40:24)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-March/001626.html
Thread for the super-pom-based building (tbachman, 17:41:04)
* phrobb asks when auto-release will be in jeapordy without a decision
(tbachman, 17:41:20)
* zxiiro says they believed they’ve committed to M4 for being able to
successfully build Lithium autorelease (tbachman, 17:42:02)
* colindixon asks what offset autorelease is (tbachman, 17:42:08)
* the line in the sand is 4/16 to have lithium auto-release working
(colindixon, 17:42:22)
* phrobb asks zxiiro when there’s a decision, how long it will take to
get autorelease up and running (tbachman, 17:43:25)
* zxiiro says this is hard to tell — if we have to change the way
we’re doing it, and he has to create a script to dynamically
determine relative paths, that may take a bit (tbachman, 17:44:06)
* LuisGomez asks that we have this worked out by the next TSC call
(tbachman, 17:44:55)
* colindixon says he’d like to see an agreed-upon decision brought to
the TSC (tbachman, 17:45:10)
* edwarnicke says this problem was solved in Helium — scaling may be
an issue, but it’s a solvable issue (tbachman, 17:45:27)
* Security Process for ODL (tbachman, 17:45:36)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002688.html
Email thread on security process (tbachman, 17:46:10)
* regXboi asks if we can start a vote on email (tbachman, 17:46:27)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002739.html
please vote starting here (colindixon, 17:46:37)
* ACTION: ALL TSC MEMBERS vote on the secruity proces thread
(colindixon, 17:47:02)
* Archiving the OSCP project (tbachman, 17:47:20)
* LINK:
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Archive_Proposals/OpenDaylight_SDN_Controller_Platform_%28OSCP%29
proposal to archive (colindixon, 17:47:33)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002682.html
Email talking about archiving of OSCP (tbachman, 17:47:58)
* VOTE: Voted on "Shall the TSC Archive the OSCP Project?" Results
are, +1: 8 (phrobb, 17:49:20)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002743.html
(colindixon, 17:50:00)
* AGREED: The TSC has moved the OSCP project to the Archive lifecycle
state. (tbachman, 17:50:07)
* Proposed Extended Lithium SR dates (tbachman, 17:50:17)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002743.html
email describing proposed dates (tbachman, 17:50:34)
* LuisGomez says we polled the projects for supporting 1 or 2
releases; what was the result of that poll? (tbachman, 17:52:10)
* phrobb says most agreed to 1 release, less consensus on supporting 2
releases (tbachman, 17:52:24)
* AGREED: SR3/SR4 will happen no sooner than 12/17 and 3/24, and are
targets for SR3/SR4 for the Lithium Release (tbachman, 17:55:26)
* AGREED: Lithium SR3 and SR4 will happen no sooner than the dates in
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002743.html
(regXboi, 17:55:26)
* ACTION: gzhao will add the two dates above to the Li release info
(dfarrell07, 17:55:40)
* weather page (regXboi, 17:55:58)
* LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather wiki page
describing proposed weather page (tbachman, 17:57:03)
* LINK:
https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-March/004858.html
mail suggsting the idea (regXboi, 17:57:09)
* regXboi notes that it would be nice if that page was factored into
the dashboard, but I'm at a loss on how to do it (regXboi,
17:57:58)
* LuisGomez says we can start with the release list, referencing the
weather page (tbachman, 17:59:28)
* cookies (tbachman, 18:03:07)
Meeting ended at 18:03:10 UTC.
Action items, by person
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* colindixon
* colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN,
OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?)
* colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive
* dlenrow
* dlenrow to send mail to relase, persistence-dev, and tsc describing
the issue and possible solutions for discussion
* edwarnicke
* LuisGomez to start drafting a list of qualifiers for an issue for
being a blocker to an SR - edwarnicke to assist
* gzhao
* gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release
and tsc lists for M3 and M4 (offset 0 only)
* gzhao will add the two dates above to the Li release info
* LuisGomez
* LuisGomez to start drafting a list of qualifiers for an issue for
being a blocker to an SR - edwarnicke to assist
* phrobb
* gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release
and tsc lists for M3 and M4 (offset 0 only)
* phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA
* phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 2 projects not yet in JJB:
plugin2oc, defense4all
* **UNASSIGNED**
* rovarga (with help from Thanh) to work on tracking latency from
merge to all CSIT
* rovarga and zxiiro to work on this for another week and bring it to
the TSC then if need be
* ALL TSC MEMBERS vote on the secruity proces thread
People present (lines said)
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* tbachman (133)
* colindixon (55)
* regXboi (38)
* odl_meetbot (26)
* alagalah_ (24)
* ChrisPriceAB (12)
* edwarnicke (11)
* dfarrell07 (10)
* tykeal (10)
* phrobb (9)
* dlenrow (6)
* dneary (5)
* mohnish (5)
* gzhao (5)
* LuisGomez (3)
* abhijitkumbhare (3)
* snoble (1)
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