15:02:06 <colindixon> #startmeeting docs
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15:02:10 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing
15:02:45 <colindixon> #info so far colindixon is the only person here, so I'll wait 5 minutes, then just cover recent events in docs w.r.t. the release plan and then head out
15:06:08 <colindixon> #topic Beryllium progress
15:06:33 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Documentation/Release_Plans/Beryllium_Release_Plan our release plan
15:07:27 <colindixon> #info colindixon has made some progress on remote importing of AsciiDoc, but it's not completed yet
15:10:01 <colindixon> #info the next deadline is M3 on 10/15 at which point it should be done, we should expect new projects to have patches pushed to the docs repo tomorrow (offset 1) and 10/15 (offset 2)
15:10:14 <colindixon> #info we will need some help reviewing those outlines
15:10:20 <colindixon> #topic new landing page
15:10:26 <colindixon> paging dneary if you're around
15:10:42 <colindixon> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Documentation/Meetings
15:11:01 <colindixon> #info odl-casey presents his new front page for the wiki on the staging wiki
15:11:35 <colindixon> #info it folds in many (if not all of the discussion from) the previous meeting with three columns
15:12:14 <colindixon> #Info odl-casey notes that he only has one documentation link (at the top with home, get software, blogs, etc.)
15:14:19 <colindixon> #info odl-casey says that he wants to bring this to the TWS and/or the TSC to make sure we're not missing anything
15:15:09 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks where "get support" and "talk to us!" will point, odl-casey says "get support" would go to ask and "talk to us!" woud go to IRC
15:16:58 <colindixon> #info colindixon suggests maybe being explicit with that to minimize suprise and maximize the likelihood of people getting the right place
15:22:05 <colindixon> #info the obvious next step would be to make sure all the listed items actually have good landing pages
15:22:16 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/File:Draft-new-wiki-front-page.png here's a screenshot of the current setup
15:23:08 <colindixon> #info colindixon suggests going from least to most advanced developer tasks in the developers column, e.g., start at hello world with REST, move to contributing a patch
15:23:40 <colindixon> #topic missing landing pages
15:23:54 <colindixon> #info do we have a tutorials landing page? odl-casey says not yet
15:28:49 <colindixon> #info colindixon misunderstood what use cases meant, it apparently was intended to mean the case studies
15:29:05 <colindixon> #Info phrobb further says we have user stories
15:31:45 <colindixon> #info colindixon says his understanding is that use cases are abstract ways you can use the s/w to do things, case studies are the things we've talked about like with cornell, user stories are genuinely ambigous sometimes meaning case studies and other times meaning the technical term for planning agile development
15:33:26 <colindixon> #info colindixon suggests that we use the term "case studies" for what we currently seem to mean "user stories" and "use cases"
15:35:29 <colindixon> #Info phrobb says that the plan is to change "user stories" to "case studies" in marketing literature
15:38:10 <colindixon> #info colindixon says his thought on what might be next woudl be to spend 30 seconds on each "link" to see if it needs more discussion or if we know where it will point and we like it
15:38:45 <colindixon> #info for those that need more discussion, we need to figure if the page exists and if not, what shoudl go there
15:39:11 <dneary> Paged
15:39:24 <dneary> colindixon, /me responds to summons
15:39:31 <dneary> (just finished a call)
15:42:03 <colindixon> #chair phrobb
15:42:03 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: colindixon phrobb
15:42:03 <dneary> colindixon, I think use cases and user stories are two different things - user stories are (as you point out) case studies, use cases are more like user stories in the UML/Scrum sense - "User profile A wants to do X with the softwarem to achieve result Y"
15:42:18 <dneary> Is there a voice meeting, or is this IRC only<
15:42:31 <colindixon> dneary: there is
15:42:37 <colindixon> it's about to be torn down though
15:42:43 <colindixon> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Documentation/Meetings
15:42:49 <colindixon> I have to run
15:42:59 <dneary> OK - in that case, I won't join
15:43:03 <colindixon> phrobb: you can tear down this meeting now
15:43:48 <dneary> I was filling in for a colleague on the OPNFV marketing call today - luckily this is the last time I'll be doing it, and I won't have a standing fortnightly conflict from now on
15:00:16 <odl_meetbot> colindixon: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
15:00:20 <colindixon> #endmeeting