18:01:07 <phrobb> #startmeeting
18:01:07 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 27 18:01:07 2014 UTC.  The chair is phrobb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:01:33 <dmm> #info dmm
18:01:56 <Madhu> #info Madhu for RedHat
18:01:57 <phrobb> #meetingtopic TSC Meeting 2014-02-27
18:02:34 <phrobb> #info Vijoy Pandy present
18:04:03 <phrobb> #topic approval of last week's minutes
18:04:18 <phrobb> #agreed minutes from last week accepted
18:07:56 <RobDolin> #info Rob Dolin, proxy for Rajeev Nagar (Microsoft)
18:08:27 <phrobb> #info question on a group to do interop work and collects and brings back learning
18:09:42 <phrobb> folks, feel free to pound info stuff on this meeting… I have a hard time leading discussions and properly documenting them...
18:09:47 <phrobb> it takes a village :)
18:10:02 * regXboi fighting to get into the webex
18:11:41 <phrobb> regXboi:  are you in?
18:11:48 <regXboi> not yet
18:11:56 <phrobb> what's the problem
18:13:51 <RobDolin> #link http://www.isocore.com/mpls2012/ event described by David Meyer
18:14:39 <RobDolin> #info Phil Robb suggests 11 Aug, 2014 as potential release date
18:16:09 <RobDolin> #info David and Vijoy like a time-based approach
18:16:14 <phrobb> #topic Release Date for Helium
18:17:45 <phrobb> #info question/concern brought on avoiding the chaos of code freeze not happening.  We need to follow our own process better this time
18:19:44 <phrobb> #info question - if a project misses a milestone, are they off the Helium release?
18:22:04 <chrisprice___> #info Chris Price joined the meeting
18:22:42 <phrobb> #action dmm to kick off a thread to discuss process and rigidity of adherence to release schedule, code freeze, etc
18:22:49 <regXboi> #info regXboi made it in
18:25:24 <phrobb> #info further discussion on release process management ensued
18:27:19 <phrobb> #info comment/concern raised on the amount of code brought into the code base in a recent, short period of time.
18:29:11 <phrobb> #info, comment on getting to and maintaining a solid foundation of code.. is our code base stable/solid enough now or should we have that as a strong focus for Helium?
18:32:35 <phrobb> #info comment on release schedule - Hydrogen should have one or two bug-fix minor releases… this helps with stability…  Continued improvement on quality for Helium needs also to be a target
18:33:16 <phrobb> #info comment we need to focus on a better automated integration and testing infrastructure
18:34:27 <phrobb> #info while the integration team and help build out the framework, each project needs to invest in significant improvement in their QA/integration
18:36:22 <phrobb> #info several members express that stable/quality code is essential for user acceptance of OpenDaylight.  It needs to be a priority
18:38:14 <phrobb> #info comment on openstack treatment of hypervisors…. class A has had more testing, class B less testing, etc…
18:40:49 <phrobb> #info  comments ensued.. plugins cause the aggregate to only be as solid as the weakest link… class designations could work, but the complexity would be difficult
18:41:22 <phrobb> #info this will require more discussion for quality/stability
18:42:05 <phrobb> #info Should we do a "quality based" release schedule instead of a time-based one?
18:42:59 <dbainbri> gonna have to go back and re-take high school chemistry to keep up with the release.
18:47:35 <phrobb> #info discussion continues on time/feature/quality issues for release process
18:51:48 <phrobb> #action dmm and Madhu to write up a proposal on release structure/process for TSC and community review
18:53:05 <phrobb> #info comment made to keep two things in mind… improving process for projects heading to a release is important but improvement of QA/integration infrastructure also needed
18:54:20 <phrobb> #action Carol Sanders to kick off discussion on how to improve QA and integration test suite project activities
18:56:22 <phrobb> #action probb to get an OpenStack rep into TWS call to show automated integration and test infrastructure
19:02:59 <phrobb> #info question, if we use time-base release, can we have criteria available to evaluate a project to drop or keep a project for a simultaneous release?
19:03:13 <phrobb> #info consensus that "yes" that is needed.
19:03:43 <phrobb> #topic Creation Reviews
19:04:08 <phrobb> #info request made for all project proposals schedule creation reviews
19:04:25 <phrobb> #topic DLUX licensing change request
19:05:43 <phrobb> #info comments made that the DLUX project will be sharing code with OpenStack/Horizon more than the rest of the ODP project
19:07:14 <phrobb> #info question what are the unforeseen effects of this, and also, is the problem going to explode with too many licenses
19:12:28 <phrobb> #info comment made that the TSC is evaluating this for technical validity.
19:17:10 <phrobb> #info question to DLUX team on "how much cross project code flow is expected"?
19:17:59 <phrobb> #info once or twice per release cycle is somewhat expect but this is conjecture as we they haven't done it yet.
19:25:50 <phrobb> #agreed TSC has consensus that the technical value of sharing code between horizon and DLUX is valid.
19:26:39 <phrobb> #action probb to set up meeting with IP & Legal for this discussion
19:26:48 <phrobb> #topic TSC at large elections
19:28:18 <phrobb> #action probb to get nominations process moving with a end date  of 3/14/2014
19:28:35 <phrobb> #topic Branding discussion
19:29:23 <phrobb> #action probb to set up meeting on branding for when edwarnicke__ is back the week of 23/10/2014
19:29:38 <phrobb> #topic naming / renaming of OVSDB
19:30:04 <phrobb> #action madhu to lead discussion on this at next TSC meeting
19:30:14 <phrobb> #endmeeting