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17:10:09 <regXboi_on_phone> #topic agenda
17:10:27 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/001296.html mailing list topic on a new MD-SAL data store
17:11:18 <colindixon> #info ignore that
17:11:30 <regXboi_on_phone> #info ignore the above link - it is not about the MD-SAL
17:11:40 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/controller-dev/2014-March/003188.html mailing list item on MD-SAL datastores on controller-dev
17:11:49 <networkstatic> Thanks guys!
17:12:34 <networkstatic> was looking for the host key then realized phrobb here and i dont have to worry about anything :)
17:13:05 <phrobb> networkstatic:  yep, I'm here
17:14:14 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:Architecture:DOM_DataStore this is the proposed architecture
17:16:51 <networkstatic> #link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/sdn-consistency-ods2014.pdf Colin's deck from ODSummit
17:16:51 <cdub> stable/hydrogen
17:20:01 <regXboi_on_phone> #info Colin talking about MD-SAL data store interface
17:21:47 <regXboi_on_phone> #info Ed arguing for pluggability
17:22:54 <colindixon> #link http://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/5441 this gerrit is the current version of the documentation of for the pluggable API for datastores
17:23:08 <networkstatic> lol, i sound dumb but i dont care
17:23:17 <networkstatic> enough complexity
17:23:23 <cdub> KISS
17:23:25 <networkstatic> that is inconsumble
17:23:37 <networkstatic> autogen confusing junk
17:24:09 <rovarga> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/5595/
17:24:13 <rovarga> is the link I think
17:25:40 <networkstatic> thanks rovarga!
17:27:07 <networkstatic> does short term not turn into long term?
17:28:29 <regXboi_on_phone> #info aiming for update on MD-SAL in-memory store at hackfest
17:29:11 <colindixon> networkstatic: well, I think the issue is should we make it usable in a Hydrogen stability release and then do some more wholesale reworking for Helium
17:29:57 <networkstatic> #info Yan mentioned the APIC datastore as a candidate, along with other options for the HackFest his team is working on.
17:30:08 <regXboi_on_phone> #info s/Yan/Jan/
17:30:24 <networkstatic> lolz, yikes, multitasking strikes
17:31:22 <regXboi_on_phone> #info https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Group_Policy:Scaling draft numbers for group policy
17:34:07 <networkstatic> I assume we will use an existing OSS library as the base?
17:34:17 <networkstatic> zookeeper, cassandra etc
17:34:22 <networkstatic> akka
17:34:25 <networkstatic> if in mem
17:34:35 <networkstatic> rather then rolling and maintaining our own
17:36:05 <cdub> #info colindixon burden of proof on us to show existing doesn't work before BYO
17:37:14 <colindixon> Just a heads up that I'm going to have leave around 45 past the hour
17:37:43 <networkstatic> yikes
17:37:47 <networkstatic> lol
17:38:28 <colindixon> I can try to take my cell phone with me
17:39:51 <cdub> #info edwarnicke___ mentions abstraction api that's plugable should protect us from actual implementation
17:40:32 <cdub> #info colindixon says...API might actually be harder than the implementation, so issue is orthogonal
17:47:22 <networkstatic> #info Folks attending the HackFest will produce an even swap / scorecard on data store options
17:48:41 <cdub> #info discussing balance between "just do it" (and learn from it) "discuss and document the design" (to avoid making fundamental mistakes up front)
17:55:37 <networkstatic> I heard <pound> chair
17:55:45 <regXboi_on_phone> #chair networkstatic
17:55:45 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: networkstatic regXboi_on_phone
18:04:11 <networkstatic> #endmeeting