17:10:01 #startmeeting 17:10:01 Meeting started Mon Mar 24 17:10:01 2014 UTC. The chair is regXboi_on_phone. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:10:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:10:09 #topic agenda 17:10:27 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/001296.html mailing list topic on a new MD-SAL data store 17:11:18 #info ignore that 17:11:30 #info ignore the above link - it is not about the MD-SAL 17:11:40 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/controller-dev/2014-March/003188.html mailing list item on MD-SAL datastores on controller-dev 17:11:49 Thanks guys! 17:12:34 was looking for the host key then realized phrobb here and i dont have to worry about anything :) 17:13:05 networkstatic: yep, I'm here 17:14:14 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:Architecture:DOM_DataStore this is the proposed architecture 17:16:51 #link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/sdn-consistency-ods2014.pdf Colin's deck from ODSummit 17:16:51 stable/hydrogen 17:20:01 #info Colin talking about MD-SAL data store interface 17:21:47 #info Ed arguing for pluggability 17:22:54 #link http://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/5441 this gerrit is the current version of the documentation of for the pluggable API for datastores 17:23:08 lol, i sound dumb but i dont care 17:23:17 enough complexity 17:23:23 KISS 17:23:25 that is inconsumble 17:23:37 autogen confusing junk 17:24:09 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/5595/ 17:24:13 is the link I think 17:25:40 thanks rovarga! 17:27:07 does short term not turn into long term? 17:28:29 #info aiming for update on MD-SAL in-memory store at hackfest 17:29:11 networkstatic: well, I think the issue is should we make it usable in a Hydrogen stability release and then do some more wholesale reworking for Helium 17:29:57 #info Yan mentioned the APIC datastore as a candidate, along with other options for the HackFest his team is working on. 17:30:08 #info s/Yan/Jan/ 17:30:24 lolz, yikes, multitasking strikes 17:31:22 #info https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Group_Policy:Scaling draft numbers for group policy 17:34:07 I assume we will use an existing OSS library as the base? 17:34:17 zookeeper, cassandra etc 17:34:22 akka 17:34:25 if in mem 17:34:35 rather then rolling and maintaining our own 17:36:05 #info colindixon burden of proof on us to show existing doesn't work before BYO 17:37:14 Just a heads up that I'm going to have leave around 45 past the hour 17:37:43 yikes 17:37:47 lol 17:38:28 I can try to take my cell phone with me 17:39:51 #info edwarnicke___ mentions abstraction api that's plugable should protect us from actual implementation 17:40:32 #info colindixon says...API might actually be harder than the implementation, so issue is orthogonal 17:47:22 #info Folks attending the HackFest will produce an even swap / scorecard on data store options 17:48:41 #info discussing balance between "just do it" (and learn from it) "discuss and document the design" (to avoid making fundamental mistakes up front) 17:55:37 I heard chair 17:55:45 #chair networkstatic 17:55:45 Current chairs: networkstatic regXboi_on_phone 18:04:11 #endmeeting