============================= #opendaylight-meeting Meeting ============================= Meeting started by phrobb at 16:56:44 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2014/opendaylight-meeting.2014-04-17-16.56.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * TSC Members please #info in (phrobb, 16:57:01) * dmm (dmm, 16:57:06) * Kent Watsen (kwatsen, 17:01:31) * Colin Dixon (represent IBM on behalf of Vijoy) (colindixon, 17:02:38) * Ed Warnicke (edwarnicke___, 17:02:43) * Rob Dolin proxy for Rajeev Nagar (Microsoft) (RobDolin, 17:03:04) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Meeting_Agenda (dmm, 17:06:04) * Agenda Bashings (phrobb, 17:06:42) * Agenda Bashing (RobDolin, 17:06:50) * dmm points people to the agenda mentioning that today's agenda has time boundaries (RobDolin, 17:07:22) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main <- includes agenda for today (RobDolin, 17:08:01) * David Meyer asked if Colin is ready for creation review and Colin says he is. (RobDolin, 17:10:17) * Release Manager Update (RobDolin, 17:11:21) * Phil Robb reports that Huawei is interested in helping to fulfill the Release Manager role (RobDolin, 17:12:26) * Ed Warnicke suggests it is healthy for leadership to emerge (RobDolin, 17:13:32) * Helium Release Plan (RobDolin, 17:14:33) * Chris Wright here (apologies for being late) (cdub, 17:16:24) * LINK: Ed brings up his concerns about helium release dates expressed here: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-April/001074.html (colindixon, 17:17:01) * edwarnicke___ would like to allow all projects that get their proposals in by 4/30/2014, to be allowed to participate in the Helium release (colindixon, 17:18:32) * and also reviewed by the Thursday 5/15/2014 (edwarnicke___, 17:19:04) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-April/001074.html the actual link to the e-mail Ed sent (messed up the #link) (colindixon, 17:19:43) * dmm and colindixon express their support for Ed's proposal (colindixon, 17:20:39) * RobDolin expresses his support, and goes further than that saying that we should err on the side of inclusivity in allowing people that come possibly even later than 4/30 and 5/15 (for proposal and review) (colindixon, 17:21:43) * edwarnicke___ expresses some concern around making sure that there is enough time for projects to collaborate during the simultaneous release (colindixon, 17:25:27) * proposal is that the TSC commit to admitting projects to the Helium Simultaenous Release which bring their project proposals by 4/30/14 and have their creation review by 5/15/14 as long as they also have Release Plans in place for the M1 time frame (linked off their proposals) (edwarnicke___, 17:26:18) * +1 (cdub, 17:26:58) * +1 (RobDolin, 17:27:02) * +1 (edwarnicke___, 17:27:02) * +1 (colindixon, 17:27:08) * +1 (kwatsen, 17:27:11) * AGREED: TSC agrees to Ed Warnicke's proposal (phrobb, 17:27:20) * helium release plans and venues (colindixon, 17:28:37) * lithium release plans and venues (regXboi, 17:29:20) * phrobb points out that venues in the Bay area are filling up quickly (regXboi, 17:29:44) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Lithium_Release_Plan#Schedule (cdub, 17:30:06) * the problem is that there are no venues in the bay area between 5/15 and 5/25 (regXboi, 17:31:20) * edwarnicke__ points out that lithium planning is finalized between M1 and M2 of helium (regXboi, 17:33:30) * phrobb points out that he *has* to pick a venue (regXboi, 17:33:40) * phrobb is looking for a sanity check on the dates so that we can plan a venue as the lead time is longer than the release cycle... (regXboi, 17:34:43) * Ed Warnicke suggests we should have an initial day of tutorials (RobDolin, 17:37:18) * Ed Warnicke suggests we should have a design summit that doesn't conflict with other parts of program (RobDolin, 17:37:48) * phrobb says the current plan is for a full week (regXboi, 17:37:57) * Robert V. suggests we have a large number of developers from outside the bay area (RobDolin, 17:39:21) * Phil Robb suggests moving from the bay area would drop attendance by about 40% (RobDolin, 17:39:58) * Ed Warnicke points-out that many projects have an epicenter in Europe or Asia and a substantial portion of developer population there as well. (RobDolin, 17:40:47) * David Meyer suggests the issue of venues, time zones, etc. be taken to the discuss alias (RobDolin, 17:41:43) * Preventing Eclipse Breakage (RobDolin, 17:42:12) * colindixon gives kudos to brocade folks for fixing eclipse breakade (regXboi, 17:42:37) * but wants projects to "do no harm" in bringing in new languages and maven plugins that break eclipse (regXboi, 17:43:09) * Ed Warnicke also cheers the folks who did the Eclipse work (RobDolin, 17:43:19) * DLUX status (regXboi, 17:43:26) * DLUX Project Status (RobDolin, 17:43:40) * core developers have stepped away from DLUX and it's future is not clear (phrobb, 17:46:47) * several of the core resources have moved on and so the project is at best thinly staffed (regXboi, 17:46:48) * Chris Wright suggests that we have a process in-place for time-out (RobDolin, 17:49:56) * Madhu points out that there is no management around the UI presented by opendaylight (regXboi, 17:50:39) * all that is there is from the controller and *that* is AD-SAL focused (regXboi, 17:51:03) * Ryan Moats (regXboi) suggests a controller may often live under an orchestrator and the interface will be the NB APIs (RobDolin, 17:52:16) * Jan Medved suggests a controller has more uses than just living under an orchestrator (RobDolin, 17:52:36) * AGREED: there is no current TSC action item for DLUX (regXboi, 17:52:57) * LINK: http://www.opendaylight.org/project-lifecycle-releases (edwarnicke___, 17:53:11) * NDM Create Review (regXboi, 17:54:06) * LINK: http://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Negotiable_Datapath_Models (regXboi, 17:54:16) * Colin Dixon walks people through the project proposal describing Table Type Patterns (TTPs), ... (RobDolin, 17:56:01) * colindixon points out there are some interesting hardware targets for this (regXboi, 17:56:46) * LINK: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/TTPs%20and%20NBIs%20for%20ods2014-final_0.pdf slides (colindixon, 17:58:30) * LINK: http://wiki.osgi.org/wiki/Require-Capability — on MD-SAL have application require specific capabilities in their manifests (hardware case) (icbts, 18:21:37) * dmm calls for questions before the vote on this project to incubation (phrobb, 18:32:37) * kwatsen asks "is this a fundamental issue with OF1.3, and is this a proposal for how ODL will solve it? (phrobb, 18:38:21) * colindixon notes that the options of OF1.3 need bounds. the TTPs are a method to do that from the ONF… Support for these in ODL is the essence of this proposal (phrobb, 18:39:40) * dmm calls for the vote "does the TSC want to move NDM project to incubation"? (phrobb, 18:41:01) * vote on NDM project to incubation (regXboi, 18:41:24) * vote on NDM to Incubation (phrobb, 18:41:25) * +1 (cdub, 18:41:33) * +1 (dmm, 18:41:36) * +1 (edwarnicke___, 18:41:44) * +1 (colindixon, 18:41:50) * +1 (RobDolin, 18:41:52) * +1 (kwatsen, 18:41:56) * AGREED: TSC approves the NDM project to incubation (phrobb, 18:42:23) * AGREED: NDM to incubation (regXboi, 18:42:23) * colindixon calls for all/any additional help on this project is welcome (phrobb, 18:43:11) * Stable Release Branch (phrobb, 18:43:24) * cdub notes no substantial updates… effort moving forward, projects working on the effort, some projects are farther along than others. (phrobb, 18:44:22) * dmm notes he will keep this as a standing agenda item (phrobb, 18:44:59) * regXboi asks for the tag to follow the email - what to follow and post against (phrobb, 18:45:38) * cdub notes the discussion on discuss and each project contact (phrobb, 18:46:10) * dmm asks for any last pressing issues before closing (phrobb, 18:46:55) Meeting ended at 18:47:10 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * RobDolin (38) * regXboi (34) * phrobb (24) * colindixon (24) * cdub (19) * edwarnicke___ (13) * networkstatic (6) * icbts (5) * tbachman (5) * dmm (4) * odl_meetbot (4) * kwatsen (4) * drizzt_ (3) * catohornet1 (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot