17:31:24 <phrobb> #startmeeting tsc
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17:31:31 <tbachman> phrobb: thx
17:31:39 <regXboi> #info regXboi (irc only)
17:31:43 <phrobb> #topic Roll Call - TSC members please #info in
17:31:47 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow
17:31:52 * regXboi jumps the gun
17:32:09 <colindixon> #info colindixon
17:32:19 <phrobb> #chair tbachman colindixon edwarnicke_
17:32:19 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: colindixon edwarnicke_ phrobb tbachman
17:32:46 <colindixon> https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/#/meetings/detail?uuid=MEME176XJHU3O6MQ2WIS54FBIO-9VIB&rnd=320201.28932
17:33:00 <colindixon> ^^^^ that’s the WebEx URL for those who need it
17:33:11 * gzhao will dial in webex soon
17:33:24 <jmedved> #info jmedved
17:33:27 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
17:33:34 <LuisGomez> #info Luis Gomez
17:33:56 * gzhao password expired
17:34:56 <tbachman> mohnish: can you #info in?
17:35:20 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-November/002096.html an e-mail I sent ~30 minutes ago going trhough what we need to do here
17:35:23 <mohnish> #info mohnish
17:35:47 <tbachman> #topic helium SU1 Release
17:35:48 <colindixon> #topic Helium SU1 Release
17:36:05 <tbachman> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2014-November/002096.html an e-mail I sent ~30 minutes ago going trhough what we need to do here
17:36:38 <tbachman> #info since release artifacts were cut, we’ve had no other critical bugs come up, LuisGomez ran all the regression tests with success
17:37:00 <tbachman> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2014-November/002021.html email indicating to push this to the next SR
17:37:16 <regXboi> what is "this"?
17:37:29 <tbachman> good call
17:37:30 <tbachman> #undo
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17:37:54 <tbachman> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/integration-dev/2014-November/002021.html email indicating to push fix for clustering to the next SR
17:38:02 <regXboi> tbachman: thank you :)
17:38:18 <tbachman> #link https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/groups/staging/org/opendaylight/integration/distribution-karaf/0.2.1-Helium-SR1/ link to download release artifacts from nexus
17:38:45 <tbachman> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TRYposNDFPaKcySlvwkOXvfR6Anx2EFujlIjoTthhRY/edit#gid=1109333662 Spreadsheet with critical bugs
17:39:26 <regXboi> do we need to update status on those defects before voting?
17:39:27 <tbachman> #info we
17:39:29 <tbachman> ugh
17:39:30 <tbachman> #undo
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17:39:43 <phrobb> #startvote Shall the TSC approve the official release of Helium SR-1? -1, 0, +1
17:39:43 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the official release of Helium SR-1? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
17:39:43 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
17:39:48 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:39:52 <dlenrow> #vote +1
17:39:52 <regXboi> #vote +1
17:39:54 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:39:55 <jmedved> #vote +1
17:39:56 <mohnish> #vote +1
17:40:04 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
17:40:15 * regXboi notes - that should cover it...
17:40:26 <phrobb> #endvote
17:40:26 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the official release of Helium SR-1?" Results are
17:40:26 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): dlenrow, jmedved, regXboi, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, mohnish, colindixon
17:40:33 <dlenrow> Whoopee!
17:40:39 * tbachman claps loudly
17:40:48 * gzhao claps
17:40:49 <LuisGomez> congrats!
17:40:52 <abhijitkumbhare> +1 to tbachman clap
17:41:02 <mohnish> Awesome, congrats to everybody!
17:41:04 <dlenrow> Well done guys
17:41:07 <phrobb> #agreed TSC approves the on-time shipment of Helium SR-1
17:41:19 <tbachman> #topic Lithium Release Plan
17:41:19 * tykeal happens to look at this IRC channel when the vote is happening. Does anyone happen to know the staging repo ID that relates to this?
17:42:14 <tbachman> https://nexus.opendaylight.org/content/groups/staging/org/opendaylight/integration/distribution-karaf/0.2.1-Helium-SR1/
17:42:33 <tykeal> that's not the repo ID that's a meta group that merges _all_ the staging repos for public view
17:42:45 <phrobb> tykeal, we're working on it
17:42:46 <tykeal> at present it is made up of 4 staging repos
17:42:54 <colindixon> #action gzhao or edwarnicke will provide tykeal with th repo ID
17:43:01 <tykeal> thank you
17:43:17 <phrobb> #topic Lithium Simultaneous Release Discussion
17:43:28 <phrobb> sorry tbachman
17:43:28 <tbachman> #info There have been 2 edits of substance since the Li release plan was reviewed at last Thursday’s TSC
17:43:33 <tbachman> phrobb: np! :)
17:43:45 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Integration_Group:Lithium_Project_Integration_Requirements integration requirements
17:45:10 <tbachman> #info System test is encouraged to use robot, but if projects want to use something else they can (i.e. don’t mandate technology)
17:45:38 <tbachman> #info Also changed to clarify projects vs. integration projects.
17:46:04 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:Documentation_Group:Lithium_Project_Documentation_Requirements documentation requirements
17:46:41 <jmedved> question: who is providing the release notes for the Helium SR1 release?
17:46:44 <tbachman> #info This has been updated to make it clear that user documentation should be for user-facing features, and not grouped by project (since they don’t care which project a user-facing feature comes from)
17:47:43 <tbachman> #info The main release page has language added to encourage project to talk about cross-project incompatibilities
17:48:52 <tbachman> #info There’s also been a note added to the feature test section along these same lines
17:49:07 <regXboi> question: if integration has a +2 week offset for M3, how can M4 be kept at the current date?
17:50:27 <tbachman> #action gzhao to email release asking for per-project release notes for stable/helium
17:51:03 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke asks if it’s possible for people to report the outcome of the incompatibility conversations
17:51:48 <hideyuki> question: Are projects required to report test results and code coverage for non-java code (e.g. C++ code) to Sonar?
17:52:12 * regXboi notes that's two questions on the channel without answers so far :)
17:52:19 <tbachman> #action colindixon to put together pieces for the release
17:52:39 <tbachman> regXboi: parallel processing ;)
17:52:52 <jmedved> regxboi: we’re just providing an answer to the 1st question :-)
17:52:53 <regXboi> just pointing things out
17:53:04 <colindixon> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:DRAFT_Release_Plan_2014_Template
17:53:11 <colindixon> regXboi: not on dates yet
17:53:29 <jmedved> colindixon: we also need the date on the AI
17:53:35 <regXboi> colindixon: I was looking at the dates in the _ckd draft
17:53:50 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:DRAFT_Release_Plan_2014_Template Proposed Lithium Release Plan
17:53:53 <colindixon> I’ll report out on Thursday
17:54:48 <tbachman> #info colindixon asks if anyone objects to edwarnicke’s modification to the release plan re: incompatibilities
17:54:57 <tbachman> #info no objectsions were voiced
17:55:33 <regXboi> uh
17:55:37 <regXboi> what modifications?
17:55:53 <tbachman> regXboi: just a sec....
17:56:06 <regXboi> are we talking about https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:DRAFT_Release_Plan_2014_Template#Expected_Incompatibilities_with_Other_Projects
17:56:08 * tbachman hasn’t pulled up the change yet
17:56:18 <colindixon> #link https://gist.github.com/anonymous/89ec1a86dc1c976618e7 possible date options
17:56:43 <tbachman> regXboi: I believe that’s it
17:57:09 <regXboi> ok, that's fine then
17:57:34 <tbachman> #info colindixon would like to hear feedback on which dates provided in the link appeal to folks
17:58:25 <regXboi> colindixon: I still have problems if integration has a +2 week offset to offset 2 for M3
17:58:53 <regXboi> because that puts integration M3 after offset 0 M4
17:59:22 <colindixon> regXboi: I don’t understand why that would matter
17:59:46 <colindixon> regXboi: its *just* for building project-wide system tests
17:59:56 <regXboi> cough cough
18:00:37 * regXboi can just see the possible exceptions of having to change something related to M3 after M4 because of it... if folks are willing to run that risk, I'll shut up
18:02:14 <tbachman> #info LuisGomez says he has no preference from the testing perspective
18:03:23 * regXboi will go on record as saying +1 to Ed's dates
18:05:18 <tbachman> #info colindixon asks edwarnicke if he prefers his original dates or the +2 weeks to M1
18:05:58 <tbachman> #info edwarnicke says he prefers to have weekly RC’s, which was the motivation for his dates
18:06:33 <regXboi> huh?  weekly or bi-weekly?
18:06:51 <edwarnicke> regXboi: My point is that having RCs ever week at the end is better than having them every 2 weeks
18:06:55 <tbachman> regXboi: it appears edwarnicke’s dates weren’t correct (i.e. didn’t reflect that)
18:06:56 <edwarnicke> regXboi: Its a cadence thing
18:07:07 <regXboi> tbachman caught my point
18:07:08 <tbachman> regXboi: colindixon is fixing this now I think
18:07:10 <colindixon> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8f5b41c666847a9a3385
18:07:29 <tbachman> #link https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8f5b41c666847a9a3385 updated dates for Lithium Release
18:08:14 <tbachman> #undo
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18:08:20 <tbachman> :)
18:08:33 <tbachman> #link https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8f5b41c666847a9a3385 updated proposed dates for Lithium Release
18:08:49 <edwarnicke> phrobb: Could we do options #1  and #2 (to vote between two options)?
18:08:58 <regXboi> well, if that's the case, I'd almost rather see M2/RC0 in ed's dates moved out a week so that release falls on 6/25
18:09:43 <tbachman> regXboi: where would you add the wek?
18:09:47 <phrobb> edwarnicke:  yup
18:10:31 <regXboi> M2->1/29, M3->2/26, M4->3/26, M5->4/23, RC0->6/4 RC1->6/11 RC2->6/18, Release->6/25
18:10:38 <tbachman> colindixon: ^^
18:10:55 <edwarnicke> regXboi: What is the source of your desire to move out the release to 6/25? (not objecting, seeking to object)
18:10:55 <edwarnicke> seeking to understand
18:11:26 <tbachman> regXboi: how about adding an RC?
18:11:46 * tbachman reminds folks that regXboi has no audio today
18:11:48 <regXboi> I don't want to push into the 7/4 weekend, but I don't see why shorting us a week on M2 is so good an idea
18:12:03 <regXboi> tbachman: we could add an RC if needed
18:12:07 <edwarnicke> regXboi: I think my dates do *not* short M2
18:12:38 <edwarnicke> colindixon:separating biweekly from weekly RC cadence is brilliant :)
18:12:54 <regXboi> relative to the others I think it may be - that's all
18:13:41 <tbachman> colindixon: no TWS, so we have the time slot  :)
18:15:03 <edwarnicke> regXboi: Good point about the 7/4 week
18:15:04 <phrobb> #startvote Shall the TSC declare weekly (Option 1) or bi-weekly (Option 2) RC candidates for the Lithium Release? 1, 2
18:15:04 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC declare weekly (Option 1) or bi-weekly (Option 2) RC candidates for the Lithium Release? Valid vote options are 1, 2.
18:15:04 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
18:15:14 <colindixon> #vote 1
18:15:16 <LuisGomez> #vote 1
18:15:26 <regXboi> no abstain?
18:15:33 <edwarnicke> #vote 1
18:15:35 <dlenrow> #vote 1
18:15:43 <colindixon> #vote 2
18:15:43 <mohnish> #vote 1
18:15:59 <phrobb> #endvote
18:15:59 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC declare weekly (Option 1) or bi-weekly (Option 2) RC candidates for the Lithium Release?" Results are
18:15:59 <odl_meetbot> 1 (4): dlenrow, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, mohnish
18:15:59 <odl_meetbot> 2 (1): colindixon
18:16:41 <phrobb> #startvote Shall the TSC declare the Lithium Release plan to contain 3, or 4 RCs? 3, 4
18:16:41 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC declare the Lithium Release plan to contain 3, or 4 RCs? Valid vote options are 3, 4.
18:16:41 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
18:16:50 <dlenrow> #vote 4
18:16:53 <colindixon> #vote 4
18:16:55 <regXboi> #vote 3
18:16:59 <mohnish> #vote 4
18:17:01 <LuisGomez> #vote 4
18:17:04 <jmedved> #vote 4
18:17:08 * regXboi prefers to add a fourth if we need it
18:17:14 <phrobb> #endvote
18:17:14 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC declare the Lithium Release plan to contain 3, or 4 RCs?" Results are
18:17:14 <odl_meetbot> 3 (1): regXboi
18:17:14 <odl_meetbot> 4 (5): mohnish, LuisGomez, colindixon, dlenrow, jmedved
18:17:31 <dlenrow> regXboiI didn't get to vote on that
18:17:49 <dlenrow> that was boi: not boil :)
18:18:00 <edwarnicke> dlenrow: I also had an IRC glitch, but am pleased by the 4 RC result :)
18:18:48 <dlenrow> edwarnicke: I meant I didn't get to vote on Ryans variation of language. My poor attempt at humor
18:20:29 <phrobb> #startvote Shall the TSC declare M1 for Lithium starting on 11/21 (Option 1), or on 12/11  which allows approximately 4 weeks between M0 and M1(Option 2)? 1, 2
18:20:29 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC declare M1 for Lithium starting on 11/21 (Option 1), or on 12/11  which allows approximately 4 weeks between M0 and M1(Option 2)? Valid vote options are 1, 2.
18:20:29 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
18:20:37 <colindixon> #vote 1
18:20:40 <edwarnicke> #vote 2
18:20:46 <mohnish> #vote 2
18:20:47 <regXboi> #vote 2
18:20:48 <dlenrow> #vote 2
18:20:53 <jmedved> #vote 2
18:20:58 <LuisGomez> #vote 2
18:21:05 <phrobb> #endvote
18:21:05 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC declare M1 for Lithium starting on 11/21 (Option 1), or on 12/11  which allows approximately 4 weeks between M0 and M1(Option 2)?" Results are
18:21:05 <odl_meetbot> 1 (1): colindixon
18:21:05 <odl_meetbot> 2 (6): dlenrow, jmedved, regXboi, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, mohnish
18:21:33 <regXboi> are we going to go through each milestone like that?
18:21:41 * regXboi shudders
18:23:16 <colindixon> #info it’s my understanding that this means we weill use the following offset 0 dates M0: 11/11, M1: 12/11, M2: 1/22 M3: 2/1, M4: 3/19, M5: 4/16, RC0: 5/28, RC1: 6/4, RC2: 6/11, RC3: 6/18, Release: 6/25, SR1: 8/13, SR2: 9/24
18:23:37 <regXboi> M3 2/1 or 2/19?
18:23:57 <colindixon> #undo
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18:24:00 <colindixon> #info M0: 11/11, M1: 12/11, M2: 1/22 M3: 2/19, M4: 3/19, M5: 4/16, RC0: 5/28, RC1: 6/4, RC2: 6/11, RC3: 6/18, Release: 6/25, SR1: 8/13, SR2: 9/24
18:24:03 <colindixon> #undo
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18:24:20 <colindixon> #info  it’s my understanding that this means we weill use the following offset 0 dates M0: 11/11, M1: 12/11, M2: 1/22 M3: 2/19, M4: 3/19, M5: 4/16, RC0: 5/28, RC1: 6/4, RC2: 6/11, RC3: 6/18, Release: 6/25, SR1: 8/13, SR2: 9/24
18:24:59 <regXboi> #info I withdraw my previous suggestion of M2 at 1/29
18:24:59 <tbachman> colindixon: thx for doing those dates
18:25:14 <phrobb> #startvote Shall the TSC approve the Lithium Release Plan as documented on the wiki as DRAFT_Lithium_Release_Plan_ckd with the date-modification indicated above? -1, 0, +1
18:25:14 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the Lithium Release Plan as documented on the wiki as DRAFT_Lithium_Release_Plan_ckd with the date-modification indicated above? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
18:25:14 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
18:25:19 <colindixon> #vote +1
18:25:33 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
18:25:36 <dlenrow> #vote +1
18:25:36 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
18:25:36 <regXboi> #vote +1
18:25:36 <mohnish> #vote +1
18:25:37 <jmedved> #vote +1
18:25:49 * regXboi notes "and we have liftoff..."
18:25:51 <phrobb> #endvote
18:25:51 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the Lithium Release Plan as documented on the wiki as DRAFT_Lithium_Release_Plan_ckd with the date-modification indicated above?" Results are
18:25:51 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): dlenrow, jmedved, regXboi, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, mohnish, colindixon
18:25:54 * tbachman hands colindixon a celebratory vBeer
18:26:08 <tbachman> #action colindixon to make the date adjustments to the Li Release Plan
18:26:28 * edwarnicke considers getting colindixon a celebratory pBear
18:26:31 <edwarnicke> pBeer
18:26:38 <tbachman> #action colindixon to remove the “Draft” indications from the documents that say “Draft”
18:26:42 * edwarnicke tries not to get Bears for his friends
18:26:48 <tbachman> lol!
18:27:02 * regXboi is still looking for the super-cow
18:27:10 <tbachman> colindixon:  no TWS today
18:27:19 <phrobb> #endmeeting