16:00:07 <tbachman> #startmeeting md_sal_hackers
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16:00:21 <tbachman> #topic agenda
16:00:30 <tbachman> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/md_sal_hackers/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_hackers.2015-01-05-16.02.html minutes from last week’s meeting
16:04:32 <tbachman> #topic wiki pages
16:05:02 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Controller_Core_Functionality_Tutorials:Main alagalah
16:05:05 <tbachman> #undo
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16:05:18 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Controller_Core_Functionality_Tutorials:Main alagalah’s updates to the tutorial wiki page
16:05:38 <tbachman> #info alagalah used the previous strawman and edited the guts to create the above link
16:05:49 <tbachman> #info jmedved says it’s very complimentary to what he created
16:06:41 <tbachman> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:MD-SAL:MD-SAL_Document_Review:Step_by_Step_Tutorial jmedved’s updated to the tutorial
16:06:54 <tbachman> #info jmedved put each chapter in its own page
16:08:59 <tbachman> #info alagalah can take what jmedved has and take it out of the existing namespace and put it under the toaster tutorial
16:09:20 <tbachman> #info jmedved says this would be great, and then we can start editing the chapters
16:09:56 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if we can agree on the chapter content (i.e. is existing chapter content okay)?
16:10:18 <tbachman> #info jmedved says in chapter 6, he would opt to introduce the full toaster tutorial, and then after that introduce the JMX
16:10:49 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if this is a good structure
16:10:59 <tbachman> #info alagalah says it looks good to him
16:11:17 <tbachman> #info pantelis says it looks good
16:11:55 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if we want to deprecate the existing tutorial
16:12:33 <tbachman> #info pantelis asks if we are talking about the existing code in the controller or the wiki
16:13:01 <tbachman> #info jmedved says he was originally thinking about the wiki, but also we should do something with the controller
16:13:34 <tbachman> #info alagalah says we should depreceate this by calling it the “old toaster tutorial”
16:15:01 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if we’ll be ready for next week’s TWS call
16:15:18 <tbachman> #info alagalah asks if John Burns had an issue with a feature not being installed.
16:15:28 <tbachman> #info John Burns says he occasionally sees a config pusher exception
16:15:56 <tbachman> #info jmedved says he downloaded John Burn’s latest git, and sees the config pusher exception all the time
16:16:52 <tbachman> #info jmedved says if he installs toaster manually afterwards, this doesn’t happen. It only happens with installs at the beginning
16:17:08 <tbachman> #info alagalah asks if we could be having some overlap with toaster in the controller
16:17:13 <tbachman> #info jmedved says he doesn’t believe for
16:17:39 <tbachman> #info rovarga asks if the config file for the toaster lists all the required namespaces, specifically the impl-config namespace
16:19:15 <tbachman> #action alagalah to migrate things from the MD-SAL namespace to the tutorial namespace
16:19:27 <tbachman> #info alagalah says we need to start pushing code into our repo, now that we have a project
16:19:38 <tbachman> #action John Burns to work with alagalah to push code
16:19:53 <tbachman> #info alagalah and jmedved point out that we need to elect a project lead and test lead
16:21:51 <tbachman> #info pantelis to nominate himself as project lead
16:22:06 <tbachman> #info jmedved to nominate himself as the test lead
16:25:04 <tbachman> #info jmedved is separately looking into whether outside organizaitons might be interested in helping on this project
16:29:09 <tbachman> #info jmedved says that we need the archetype to be finished in order to properly document the pom
16:30:28 <tbachman> #action jmedved and rovarga to work on a write-up for the pom.xml
16:30:47 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if we’re ready for next week’s TWS call
16:30:55 <tbachman> #info John Burns asks what’s involved
16:31:13 <tbachman> #info jmedved says introduce the new directory structure, tutorial structure, etc.
16:31:42 <tbachman> #info alagalah says he can commit to having the wiki updated early this week
16:31:53 <tbachman> #info alagalah can help John Burns push the code up to the repository
16:32:17 <tbachman> #info alagalah notes that there’s also work needed on the config pusher issue and the pom structure; alagalah recommends something for Friday
16:32:55 <tbachman> #info rovarga says Friday after 8am PST doesn’t work; alagalah says 7am works for him; jmedved says he can do 6, 6:30, 7.....
16:33:27 <tbachman> #agreed Meeting to go over tutorial presentation for TWS at 7am PST on Friday
16:34:10 <uchau> any plans to cover md-sal release plans as part of today's agenda?
16:35:03 <tbachman> uchau: not that I’m aware of. Maybe we should have an email for agenda items that folks would like to see covered?
16:35:28 <tbachman> not sure which mailing list to use there - maybe controller-dev
16:35:29 <tbachman> dunno
16:36:33 <tbachman> uchau: there may be a wiki page that describes this (candidate release plan, that was part of M1 milestone)
16:37:04 <tbachman> #info uchau asks if there’s any plans to go over the MD-SAL release plans
16:37:18 <tbachman> #info For example, topics such as deprecate inventory model
16:37:46 <tbachman> #info Updating or changing yang-to-java mapping (v2, as covered by ttkacik at the developer’s summit)
16:38:38 <tbachman> #info jmedved says ttkacik has a short summary; jmedved says it would be a good thing to have a TWS call on the work that’s being done in the MD-SAL features
16:39:21 <tbachman> #info rovarga says they would postpone binding features to Beryllium, and incorporate some of the Java 8 features
16:39:55 <tbachman> #info jmedved says there will be some changes to the notifications API and RPC API; proposals have been sent out by rovarga, but he hasn’t received much feedback
16:40:25 <tbachman> #info rovarga says we should review the features in this call first, then promote to the larger community in Tuesday’s call
16:41:05 <tbachman> #info jmedved recommends we schedule the first 15-20 minutes for next week’s call on the tutorial and the rest of the call going over these changes.
16:41:33 <tbachman> #info plan is to cover notifications next week, and RPCs the following week
16:41:56 <tbachman> #info uchau asks about inventory; some of their projects augment inventory, so if changes are made at that level, they need to know
16:42:26 <tbachman> #info rovarga says it’s not part of the MD-SAL, or at least not part of the infrastructure; he says that the openflowplugin folks are looking into some of these changes
16:42:34 <tbachman> #info uchau asks if this would be a good TWS call
16:43:01 <tbachman> #info rovarga says there is an openflow open items on today’s TWS
16:43:09 <tbachman> #info alagalah says today’s TWS is the security update
16:43:59 <tbachman> #info abhijitkumbhare contacted alagalah about this last week, and alagalah recommended finding a slot for this topic
16:44:14 * tbachman watches jmedved develop :)
16:45:02 <tbachman> #info rovarga says that we need to make sure that resources are committed to moving applications off of the model
16:45:35 <tbachman> #info rovarga says the topology model hasn’t been updated yet with their latest draft
16:46:31 <tbachman> #info jmedved asks if there are any other coments on the tutorial
16:46:44 <tbachman> #info uchau says it would be nice to see the archetype, as this sets up the directory structure
16:48:49 <tbachman> #info uchau asks when the toaster is going to be available
16:48:59 <tbachman> #info jmedved says it’s available on John Burn’s private git
16:49:09 <tbachman> #action John Burns to share his git repo
16:50:06 <tbachman> #endmeeting