========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-03-12-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call and agenda bashing (colindixon, 17:00:25) * mohnish anumala (mohnish, 17:00:30) * colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:36) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda the agenda in it’s usual place (colindixon, 17:00:39) * rovarga as jmedved's proxy (rovarga, 17:01:51) * edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:02:17) * regXboi (regXboi, 17:02:24) * LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:02:41) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-03-05-18.00.html the minutes from last time (colindixon, 17:02:43) * Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:03:37) * Chris Wright (not on phone yet) (cdub, 17:04:11) * ACTION: colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?) (colindixon, 17:04:49) * ttkacik for controller (ttkacik1, 17:05:27) * ACTION: zxiiro will send mail about setting up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags this week (colindixon, 17:05:43) * dlenrow (dlenrow, 17:05:59) * ACTION: colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive (colindixon, 17:06:46) * ACTION: colindixon to bring dates for stable release updates for Lithium to next week’s TSC meeting (colindixon, 17:07:16) * events update (colindixon, 17:08:11) * LINK: http://www.opendaylight.org/news/events << events (phrobb, 17:08:29) * most immediate thing is the 4/15-4/16 hackfest, we currently only have 28 people registered (colindixon, 17:08:59) * if you are planning to attend, please register (colindixon, 17:09:12) * ODForum India on 4/22, OpenStack Summit Vancouver on 5/18, Open Networking Summit in June, OpenDaylight Summit in July (colindixon, 17:10:17) * notifications for talks at the ODL Summit will go out in the next 48 hours (colindixon, 17:10:35) * stable helium (regXboi, 17:11:22) * gzhao gives update on stable Helium release (dfarrell07|sick, 17:12:06) * no issues blocking cutting next stable helium release (SR3) on 3/15/2015 (regXboi, 17:12:37) * plan is to have three days of testing for TSC review on 3/19/2015 (regXboi, 17:13:01) * edwarnicke requests a good crisp email about SR3 plans to release@ mailing list (regXboi, 17:13:25) * Discussion about when patches must be in by to be included in SR3 (dfarrell07|sick, 17:13:32) * ACTION: gzhao to e-mail the release list with a precise time at which we will cut the SR3 test artifacts (colindixon, 17:13:33) * colindixon suggests using a time/date countdown, to avoid confusion over time zones (dfarrell07|sick, 17:14:12) * LINK: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/create Colin suggests that we use this to be precise (colindixon, 17:14:22) * colindixon notes many important patches for SR3, and the project needs to know when to have them in. colindixon suggests aim for Sunday/Monday UTC (phrobb, 17:15:10) * Lithium (colindixon, 17:15:37) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KPpO9LH539Vlcoa4RvLa6PPCdLifi5JD-ihRhlybqeo/edit#gid=1196332566 the spreadsheet tracking (colindixon, 17:16:23) * gzhao gives updates on project statuses (dfarrell07|sick, 17:16:47) * gzhao sent email to release subject [Action needed for various project] M3 status overdue for offset 1 projects and complete Single Feature Test (alagalah, 17:16:48) * many projects are yellow for M3 offset one (6 projects out of 17) (colindixon, 17:16:58) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-March/001614.html <- gzhao's email (alagalah, 17:17:01) * for Lithium, ALTO is behind since M2, MAPLE still held on IP issues, PCMM needs to respond on their release plan closure (phrobb, 17:17:17) * we also have 5 offset 1 projects that haven’t reported their status yet (colindixon, 17:17:21) * gzhao has sent emails to individual projects who either haven't reported status for by the designated M2 milestone (alagalah, 17:17:49) * ACTION: phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA (phrobb, 17:18:04) * colindixon states that of the projects that are "not compliant" (alagalah editorial) , AAA is the one that concerns him the most (alagalah, 17:18:39) * regXboi notes that not all project leads can edit that spreadsheet (regXboi, 17:18:47) * due to other project's reliance (alagalah, 17:18:49) * gzhao says he gives edit permission to project leads when/if they ask (colindixon, 17:20:01) * gzhao points out that project leads who request access to the spreadsheet are always granted. (alagalah, 17:21:00) * ACTION: gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone (phrobb, 17:21:18) * system integration and test (colindixon, 17:21:57) * next TWS will have a Robot tutorial (phrobb, 17:22:34) * LuisGomez says that we are very close to completely migrating system integraitn and tests to to JJB (colindixon, 17:22:46) * next TWS (3/15/15) will be a tutorial on robot framework - all are encouraged to attend (regXboi, 17:22:55) * outstanding issue with projects that pass single-feature test are still breaking integration testing (regXboi, 17:24:04) * colindixon notes that we seem to have had some breaks in integration even from features that were tested with the signle feature test (colindixon, 17:24:10) * the test can pass becaues of a warm m2 repo (even in our CI) and that can mean it still breaks in integration (colindixon, 17:25:04) * ACTION: edwarnicke to open a bug for fixing warm cache issues in odlparent (colindixon, 17:26:54) * edwarnicke and LuisGomez talk in some details about how other things can fail (colindixon, 17:28:20) * ACTION: edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step (colindixon, 17:28:51) * At approx minute 25 of WebEx recording, edwarnicke describes in some detail some of the issues around features in pom.xml and dependencies (alagalah, 17:28:55) * infrastructure (colindixon, 17:29:18) * colindixon asks about odl-forge (regXboi, 17:29:33) * tykeal is trying to make progress on ODLforge, but he’s been distracted by other (important) things (colindixon, 17:29:52) * colindixon asks about jjb migration (regXboi, 17:30:10) * zxiiro reports that is in the spreadsheet and there appear to be three leaf projects that aren't using jjb and have not been heard from them (regXboi, 17:31:45) * edwarnicke asks for visibility into downstream merged jobs to catch downstream failures early (regXboi, 17:32:21) * edwarnicke notes we need tracability from merge job to downstream affects (phrobb, 17:32:22) * ACTION: phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all (colindixon, 17:32:27) * edwarnicke also points that we need to improve the feedback time on downstream failures on patch (regXboi, 17:33:00) * edwarnicke asks for us to be mindful of patch / fix latency on tests (phrobb, 17:33:11) * LuisGomez notes that we currently have the ability to track backward pretty easily in the new JJB, going forward isn’t as obvious (colindixon, 17:33:43) * LuisGomez notes that distro is much faster removing the "compatible-with-all" and now there is much more parallel test runs given the new infra (phrobb, 17:34:52) * ACTION: we need somebody to write up how to do the forward and backward tracing as well as characterizing the latency from when a merge triggers something and when we know if it broke/fixed anything (colindixon, 17:35:21) * edwarnicke asks that we track what the latency time is so we can track any changes and if the time grows to the point of being a concern again (phrobb, 17:35:28) * colindixon asks for volunteers to figure out the patch latency on the dashboard (phrobb, 17:37:16) * ACTION: zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT (colindixon, 17:37:53) * regXboi requests colindixon to bump use case discussion from future topics to intended topics for next week (regXboi, 17:37:58) * LINK: https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2826 <- Bug for SingleFeatureTest coverage gap (edwarnicke, 17:38:14) * communication with downstream projects (colindixon, 17:38:44) * alagalah says that we put some time in to lessons learned after Helium and one of them was offsets that’s helped a lot (colindixon, 17:39:14) * note: committer promotions skipped because project lead from aaa not in attendence (regXboi, 17:39:15) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-March/004815.html <--- Keith's email (alagalah, 17:39:43) * security process (colindixon, 17:41:17) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002702.html security process proposal email (regXboi, 17:41:36) * LINK: https://gist.github.com/dfj/a1fb9fc7ff6b335f81c4 proposal in markdown format (regXboi, 17:42:16) * ACTION: TSC to review above link for a vote @ 3/19 meeting (regXboi, 17:42:31) * ACTION: regXboi to translate google md doc to wikipage (regXboi, 17:43:35) * coding best practices (colindixon, 17:45:28) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/ODL_Coding_Guidelines Than created this merged document (colindixon, 17:45:38) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html the mailing list thread (colindixon, 17:47:55) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Logging_Best_Practices (colindixon, 17:48:13) * zxiiro notes that he has been adding functionality to checkstyle to include validating license headers (phrobb, 17:48:18) * ACTION: zxiiro to group all the pages around best practices from here: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html (colindixon, 17:49:27) * project-wide dashboard (colindixon, 17:50:48) * LINK: https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/ <- root jenkins page (regXboi, 17:51:22) * regXboi says having played around with the root-level of releng is pretty darn close to the starting place is pretty darn close (colindixon, 17:51:42) * we don’t have things like how long it takes to propogate down the dependency chain (colindixon, 17:53:03) * colindixon asks what else we’re missing (colindixon, 17:53:14) * regXboi says a tab for verify jobs would be ince (colindixon, 17:53:23) * tykeal and zxiiro say that we can make a tab for any list of jobs for which we can write a regular expression to match (colindixon, 17:53:49) * LINK: https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/l2switch/depgraph-view/ (colindixon, 17:54:36) * LINK: https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/Verify-Jobs/ (tykeal, 17:55:42) * ACTION: regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard (colindixon, 17:56:32) * ACTION: regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard with an email to discuss (regXboi, 17:56:58) * ACTION: colindixon to add use cases to the topic list for next week (colindixon, 17:57:26) * OPNFV/OpenDaylight interactions meeting (colindixon, 17:57:41) * dneary is sending out an invitation to everyone that should join (colindixon, 17:58:11) * there was a very useful sync call a few weeks ago, and so they’re doing a set of them every few weeks (colindixon, 17:58:56) * dneary notes that the next ODL/OPNFV interaction meeting will be next week, and he will be sending an email on such out. (phrobb, 17:59:29) * The how-to to create the dependency tree (abhijitkumbhare, 17:59:42) * cookies (phrobb, 17:59:43) Meeting ended at 17:59:52 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * colindixon * colindixon to continue to follow AD-SAL deprecation between VTN, OVSDB, and controller (are ther others?) * colindixon keep the thread on best practices alive * colindixon to bring dates for stable release updates for Lithium to next week’s TSC meeting * colindixon to add use cases to the topic list for next week * edwarnicke * edwarnicke to open a bug for fixing warm cache issues in odlparent * edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step * gzhao * gzhao to e-mail the release list with a precise time at which we will cut the SR3 test artifacts * gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone * LuisGomez * edwarnicke and LuisGomez to send out a description of warnings about feature and document them on the karaf step by step * phrobb * phrobb to escalate/follow up with AAA * gzhao and phrobb to provide a summary of milestone status to release and tsc lists at each milestone * phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all * regXboi * regXboi to translate google md doc to wikipage * regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard * regXboi to list out things that would hugely help people and how they work with ODL in a dashboard with an email to discuss * rovarga * zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT * zxiiro * zxiiro will send mail about setting up opt-in/opt-out automatic version bump patches and tags this week * phrobb and zxiiro to follow up with the 3 projects not yet in JJB: plugin2oc, sdninterfaceapp, defense4all * zxiiro and rovarga to work on tracking latency from merge to all CSIT * zxiiro to group all the pages around best practices from here: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-March/002696.html * **UNASSIGNED** * we need somebody to write up how to do the forward and backward tracing as well as characterizing the latency from when a merge triggers something and when we know if it broke/fixed anything * TSC to review above link for a vote @ 3/19 meeting People present (lines said) --------------------------- * colindixon (79) * regXboi (30) * alagalah (20) * odl_meetbot (18) * phrobb (17) * rovarga (9) * dfarrell07|sick (9) * tykeal (8) * snoble (7) * edwarnicke (6) * dneary (5) * ttkacik1 (4) * abhijitkumbhare (4) * zxiiro (4) * cdub (2) * gzhao (1) * tbachman (1) * LuisGomez (1) * ChrisPriceAB (1) * mohnish (1) * dlenrow (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4