17:00:21 #startmeeting tsc 17:00:21 Meeting started Thu Jul 23 17:00:21 2015 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:00:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:21 The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:00:25 #topic roll call and agenda bashing 17:00:32 #chair dfarrell07 phrobb gzhao 17:00:32 Current chairs: colindixon dfarrell07 gzhao phrobb 17:00:38 #info colindixon 17:00:45 TSC members please #info in 17:01:03 #info edwarnicke 17:01:12 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=33950#Agenda the agenda in it’s usual place 17:01:23 #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-07-16-17.00.html meeting minutes from last time 17:01:34 #info dfarrell07 for cdub/Red Hat 17:02:26 #info abhijitkumbhare for ChrisPriceAB / Ericsson 17:03:04 #action colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade from Helium to Lithium (for SR1) 17:03:12 #info LuisGomez 17:03:13 #action ChrisPriceAB to work with rovarga, jmedved, et. al. to look into leveraging OPNFV infrastructure for performance measurements and 17:03:33 5 TSC members 17:03:40 dfarrell07: thanks! 17:04:01 #info mohnish anumala 17:04:05 6 17:04:29 dfarrell07: that’s quorum 17:04:49 #action gzhao to send out exact cutoff dates/times for Lithium SRs and get him to if he hasn’t 17:05:01 #action phrobb to send out mail when the new infra person is up-to-speed so that he knows when he will not be waking people up after hours 17:05:25 #action phrobb to keep working on JIRA and let us know when we can use it 17:05:41 #action tony and zxiiro to look at the sonar/jacoco reports and try to figure out how (and if) we can reasonby get feature-level code coverage information 17:06:16 #action tony to send out an e-mail explaining his alternative solution to version bumping and branch cutting 17:07:13 #topic events 17:07:22 #info Youcef Laribi 17:07:25 #link http://www.opendaylight.org/news/events/ the usual events page 17:07:30 7 TSC members 17:07:46 #info the ODL summit is next week, phil is putting the topics into the developer deisgn forum 17:08:06 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Be_Dev_Forum if you wanted to add a topic to the deisgn forum, get it here in the next few hours 17:08:34 #link https://www.regonline.com/register/checkin.aspx?EventId=1627424&MethodId=0&EventSessionId=&startnewreg=1 if you still haven’t registered for the design forum and would like to come, sign up *now* 17:09:32 The IETF Prague hackfest finishes today 17:09:43 #info there was an IETF hackfest a few days back on SFC/GBP, Jan, Tony, ChrisP and others say it went well 17:10:03 #topic Be, stable/He, and stable/Li updates 17:11:00 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-July/003272.html there was a regression in l2switch’s behavior the Helium-SR4 release candidate 17:11:58 #info LuisGomez says that this issue is easy for us to reproduce in the release, hard to reproduce in the stable/helium branch, and hard to reproduce locally 17:13:14 194 548 370 isn't working as meeting code 17:13:30 dneary: Meeting number: 194 548 370 17:13:32 that's the meeting code 17:13:33 huh 17:13:36 that is it 17:13:38 but it wouldn't work for me in the app either 17:13:39 webex is being bad 17:13:45 I had to just call in... 17:13:51 Dialling a local French number I found on webex.com 17:14:18 #action LuisGomez is looking into whether this is a regression from SR2/SR3 or not, if it’s not and we can find a workout, we might just ship it, otherwise we need a workaround 17:14:30 App never works for me (error 31001 every time) 17:14:32 dneary: 194 548 370 for me 17:14:44 I'll ring the US number 17:15:33 * regXboi pads in 17:15:39 #action ttkacik will stay in touch with LuisGomez and try to look into things, it appears that this is new to SR4, but is alos not present in the snapshots 17:16:04 * regXboi pads in as IRC only 17:16:37 On now 17:17:07 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Beryllium_Release_Plan#M1:_Joining_the_Release template for M1 status reports, offset 0 ones are due today 17:17:46 #info technically, all new project proposals are supposed to be in by today, but I believe the TSC will make exceptions for interesting projects that come out of the summit if they want to join beryllium 17:18:39 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-July/003198.html the cutoff time and dates for Liithium-SR1 17:19:12 colindixon: typo in that link description? 17:19:32 regXboi: how so? 17:19:38 Liithium? 17:19:42 #undo 17:19:42 Removing item from minutes: 17:19:48 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-July/003198.html the cutoff time and dates for Lithium-SR1 17:19:50 :) 17:19:52 #topic infrastructure 17:20:12 #info tykeal is back and nothing is broken, zxiiro did an awesome job 17:20:23 #info tykeal will be starting upgrades of the environment after the summit 17:20:35 what *kinds* of upgrades? 17:20:42 #info phrobb says we’re in the final steps of getting a trial JIRA up and running 17:21:04 #info regXboi asks (on irc) what *kinds* of upgrades? 17:21:24 #info tykeal says all kinds of upgrades, gerrit, jenkins, nexus, underlying slaves—basically everything but sonar 17:21:39 thx 17:22:23 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-July/003512.html please submit your GPG keys for the keysigning 17:23:03 #topic events (again) 17:23:24 #info there is an OPNFV hackfest on Thursday and Friday, there will be some time for overlap on Thursday morning 17:23:52 #info the ETSi NFV folks are also in town, but at a different location, they will be coming to the OPNFV things on Thursday morning, for which we are also invited 17:24:49 #info these topics will be looking at the SDN parts of the OPNFV and ETSI activities 17:24:55 #topic Future TSC meetings 17:25:07 #info No meeting next week (7/30/2015) because of the summit 17:27:37 It's fine with me 17:27:43 ^^2 hours 17:27:48 fine with me 17:27:57 #agreed there will be a 2 hour TSC call on August 6th 17:28:03 fine with me (as ChrisPriceAB ) :) 17:28:24 #action colindixon to send mail about extending the 2 hour TSC calls past 8/6 with broader TSC members being aware 17:29:02 #topic Fabric as a Service creation review 17:29:20 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-July/003528.html the tail of the discussion on the malling list 17:32:11 #action colindixon will start a vote when the scoping questions have at least been answered 17:32:34 #topic OF circuit switching creation review 17:32:45 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Openflowplugin-extension-circuitsw the proposal 17:33:36 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2015-April/000305.html proposed on 4/3/2015 17:35:25 #link https://www.opennetworking.org/images/stories/downloads/sdn-resources/onf-specifications/openflow/Optical_Transport_Protocol_Extensions_V1.0.pdf ONF’s Optical Transport Protocol Extensions spec 17:36:47 abhijit: what other OF extensions that are currently supported? 17:37:01 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/images/1/1d/OCS_OF_Protocol_Extensions_Rev._0.4.pdf Circuit Switching OF extensions from Calient 17:38:07 mohnish: Nicira extensions are supported 17:38:08 i can hear you 17:38:58 the audio just got very bad 17:38:58 Is it just me, or are others having problems with the audio? 17:39:00 #info colindixon asks if the circuit switching spec is something that people are working with the ONF 17:39:05 The scope of the project is: 17:39:15 ebrjohn: not for me 17:39:22 Design and Implementation of the OpenFlow Protocol Extensions for the Circuit Switches in the openflowjava 17:39:22 Design and Implementation of the Yang models for the Circuit Flows(cross-connects), Ports, Cirucit Flow and Port Statistics 17:39:23 Design and Implementation of the OpenFlow Protocol Extensions for the Circuit Switches in the openflowplugin 1.0 17:39:48 #info Aneesha says the answer is they are not working with the ONF at the moment 17:39:56 colindixon: thanks, I can hear better now, but the webex window froze :( 17:40:39 #info colindixon points out that the topology supports multi-level modeling, so that should enable publishing optical circuit topologies into the topology model as Aneesha says they’d like to 17:41:01 #info colindixon also points out that the inventory model might be deprecated in Beryllium as it gets folded into the topology model 17:41:19 #info mohnish asks if modifications to openflow{plugin,java} are needed or if this will be separate 17:41:52 Aneesha: could you add email address to your project proposal resource committed and initial committers sections 17:41:57 #info the answer seems to be yes, modifications and/or extensions will be needed, and edwarnicke says he’ll help with his openflowplugin committer hat on 17:42:45 #action Aneesha to add an e-mail address or committed resources and initial committers 17:43:22 * dfarrell07 has a vote queued up if you want it, colindixon 17:43:30 dfarrell07: thanks! 17:44:07 #info abhijitkumbhare says that experimental matches and experimental actions are there, but experimental multipart messages aren’t there yet and Aneesha would like to help build that 17:44:25 Aneesha: the scope doesn’t mention optical, it’s just circuit switching 17:44:38 Aneesha: also do you want to only have one committer 17:45:01 #info edwarnicke says that he’d like to see the multi-part message (or the fact that it needs to be there) likely shouldn’t be exposed out the top of the protocol 17:45:08 #undo 17:45:08 Removing item from minutes: 17:45:11 #info edwarnicke says that he’d like to see the multi-part message (or the fact that it needs to be there) likely shouldn’t be exposed out the top of the protocol protocol 17:45:44 * tbachman comes into the room 17:46:33 #info colindixon asks if it makes sense to have more committers 17:46:39 #info Aneesha says for now she’s all there is 17:47:18 #info colindixon asks does it make sense for this to be it’s own project, or just a new effort inside openflow{java,plugin} 17:47:50 "loves" webex hehe 17:48:04 lol 17:48:07 lol 17:48:44 tykeal: yeah, Colin's tone on that was perfect, voice actor for sarcasm/loathing webex 17:48:54 :) 17:49:18 #info Aneesha says she would like her own project for this effort 17:49:41 #info colindixon says the project says circuit switches, but doesn’t metnion optical 17:49:57 colindixon: was there an answer to that "more committers" question? 17:50:13 #info Aneesha says they meant to mention optical in the scope 17:50:27 #action Aneesha to put optical in the scope if that was the intent 17:50:40 * tbachman pictures gerrit 17:51:05 WebEx glare 17:51:27 *blink* I didn't get that 17:51:30 lol 17:51:34 *bleeeep* 17:51:50 #info edwarnicke says there’s a standing set of guidelines for repo names — want ones suitable for use as a java identifier 17:51:54 sort of require it actually 17:51:59 #info colindixon asks if we should have a long reponame like openflowplugin-extension-circuitsw instead of something simple like ofocs 17:52:52 Dropping... family stuff 17:52:54 #info edwarnicke and tykeal notes that dashes in the repo name will cause issues with things like maven groupIds 17:52:58 dneary: enjoy 17:53:02 #info LuisGomez asks if Aneesha considered collaboration for a cycle with OpenFlow plugin first, and then possibly migrate to a new project 17:53:12 dneary: I would counsel not dropping your family from to great a height... 17:53:18 edwarnicke: lol 17:54:17 #info abhijitkumbhare asks TSC if all the experimenter extensions be in a single place or scattered in projects. 17:54:17 #info LuisGomez points out that running an ODL project is a lot of work and she will likely want help. Aneesha agrees. 17:54:39 #info edwarnicke feels it’s critically important to be able to have extensions outside of the openflowplugin 17:54:42 maybe we need an extensions metaproject? 17:54:53 metaprojects have a history of failing 17:54:57 #info mohnish asks if that would encourage reuse of extensions if they aren’t centralized 17:55:00 with one notably exception 17:55:03 +1 to tykeal - extensions metaproject 17:55:14 meta project in the gerrit sense ;) like releng/ 17:55:20 ah 17:55:21 #info edwarnicke says there’s a distinction of “can” and “should” — we “should” allow it, lacking a good extension repo 17:55:21 I see 17:56:21 #info colindixon notes that it’s also possible to fold code from the project ot the openflowplugin if that’s more desireable in the future 17:56:23 * ebrjohn who's going to ask? "Are you sure you're sure????" 17:56:31 ebrjohn: :) 17:56:44 ebrjohn: I am uncertain 17:56:59 ebrjohn: As to *who* will say "Are you sure you're sure????" ;) 17:57:14 * tbachman is sure of nothing 17:57:33 edwarnicke: :) 17:57:38 #info it sounds like there’s loose agreement that maybe we should make the name ofextensions/circuitsw 17:58:10 groupID would end up being org.opendaylight.ofextensions.circuitsw in that case 17:58:34 #info tykeal notes that groupId would end up being org.opendaylight.ofextensions.circuitsw in that case 17:58:46 +1 to ofextensions/circuitsw colindixon 17:59:15 should it be ofextensions or openflowextensions? 17:59:29 * dfarrell07 hearts short names 17:59:38 * tykeal agrees with dfarrell07 17:59:40 ofext/circuitsw 18:00:36 #info colindixon asks if there’s a preference for the naming? His is ofextensions 18:00:43 #action Aneesha to rename the repository name to ofextensions/circuitsw 18:01:04 * dfarrell07 doesn't have that vote 18:01:13 trying 18:01:22 what are the changes again? 18:01:24 * tykeal is home ;) 18:01:31 * ebrjohn me too ;) 18:01:45 (1) add email address, (2) change repo name, (3) add optical to the scope 18:02:03 #startvote Shall the TSC approve the project under review with the required changes 1) add email address 2) change repo name 3) address scope project thto Incubation? -1, 0, +1 18:02:03 Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve the project under review with the required changes 1) add email address 2) change repo name 3) address scope project thto Incubation? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 18:02:03 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 18:02:07 is that good? 18:02:07 dfarrell07: thx! 18:02:10 enough 18:02:14 #vote +1 18:02:17 #vote +1 18:02:17 #vote +1 18:02:19 #vote +1 18:02:20 #vote +1 18:02:23 #vote +1 18:02:23 #vote +1 18:02:31 #endvote 18:02:31 Voted on "Shall the TSC approve the project under review with the required changes 1) add email address 2) change repo name 3) address scope project thto Incubation?" Results are 18:02:31 +1 (7): LuisGomez, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, mohnish, colindixon, abhijitkumbhare, Youcef 18:02:37 Sorry for the rushed vote 18:02:59 #agreed the openflow optical circuit switch OF extensions project is moved to incubation 18:03:10 #topic cookies 18:03:32 #endmeeting