18:00:25 <colindixon> #startmeeting tsc
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18:00:31 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing and roll call
18:00:39 <colindixon> TSC members, please #info in
18:00:43 <colindixon> #info colindixon
18:01:18 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=38379#Agenda the agenda in it's usual place
18:01:37 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2015/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2015-11-05-18.00.html last week's meeting minutes
18:02:13 <colindixon> if you're in the hotel, people are meeting in "Boardroom 1" on the atrium level at the top of the escalators.
18:03:20 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke (is in the room)
18:03:27 <jmedved> #info jmedved (irc only)
18:03:59 <colindixon> #action colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade from Helium to Lithium (for SR3) https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3160
18:04:02 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez
18:04:25 <colindixon> jmedved: any comment on jmedved to talk to ttkacik about how to get the benchmarks into controller by offset 2 M4 (tracked by https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4519)
18:04:41 <colindixon> #action ttcacik and zxiiro to work on getting feature-level code coverage numbers
18:04:54 <colindixon> #action rovarga, alagalah, mohnish, ttkacik, vishnoianil, ebrjohn, RPenno, abhijitkumbhare will try to draft a paragraph around the best practices including this discussion and feedback (to be gotten) from PTLS, they should also feel free to provide feedback around tools and technical solutions to help with upstream/downstream breakages
18:04:57 <jmedved> colindixon: the benchmarks are being moved
18:05:19 <jmedved> dsbenchmark has been moved (the patch is merged)
18:05:35 <mohnish_> #info mohnish anumala
18:05:38 <jmedved> rpcbenchmark and ntfbenchmark will be added this week
18:06:22 <colindixon> #info jmedved says that dsbenchmark is moved out of coretutorials, and that rpcbenchmark and ntfbencmark will move this week
18:06:47 <jmedved> colindixon: dsbenchmark is still in coretutorials (and can stay there)
18:06:55 <jmedved> but it has also be added to the controller
18:07:23 <jmedved> so that there is no dependency on coretutorials in the distribution
18:07:28 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare (for ChrisPriceAB )
18:07:32 <jmedved> the functionality is the same (for now)
18:07:47 <jmedved> only the dsbenchmark in the controller will be further evolved
18:07:59 <colindixon> #info jmedved clarifies that the code hasn't been moved, but has been copied so that there is no dependency from the distrubtion to the coretutorials project
18:08:20 <jmedved> the ntfbenchmark and rpcbenchmark are only in lithium coretutorials
18:08:29 <jmedved> but they will be added to the beryllium controller
18:08:59 <phrobb_> #info Chris Price gives Abhijit the delegate status for this TSC
18:09:28 <colindixon> #topic TSC votes and discussions
18:09:49 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-October/004026.html TSC at-large elections and platinum designate discussion
18:10:49 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
18:10:50 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-November/004419.html discussion on release about ideas for Boron
18:11:14 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-November/004144.html moving projects to mature in Beryllum
18:13:23 <colindixon> #action LuisGomez to give an estimate for a drop-dead date on when we'd need to decide if we actually need a stable distribution
18:15:17 <colindixon> #info rovarga says that yangtools had been considering joining the mature bandwagon, but has been so busy that he hasn't even been able to review the requirements
18:15:28 <colindixon> #info abhijitkumbhare says roughly the same openflow plugin
18:17:15 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke notes that proejcts may be more heads down than allows for doing this, but colindixon adds we should figure out if so and how we might be able to fix it
18:17:37 <colindixon> #topic eventt
18:17:41 <colindixon> #undo
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18:17:43 <colindixon> #topic events
18:17:53 <colindixon> #info OPNFV is going on right now
18:18:01 <colindixon> #info MEF hackathon in dallas is next week
18:18:14 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events events page in it's usal place
18:18:48 <colindixon> #info OVSCon next week might be of interest to people
18:18:50 <abhijitkumbhare> #link http://openvswitch.org/support/ovscon2015/ OVS Fall 2015 conference
18:19:05 <colindixon> #topic beryllium
18:19:23 <colindixon> #info missing M3 from next UI toolkit
18:19:33 <colindixon> #info M4 is due from offeset 1 today
18:19:50 <colindixon> #info autorelease build broke on DIDM, but should build later
18:20:29 <colindixon> #info zxiiro has a proof-of-concept to make mvn validate work in autorelase which would catch most breakages in minutes, not hours
18:21:44 <colindixon> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hci5TMUPyB6PX8Al-fwfVqvs5SQVa2wZLja_7rKWN6o/edit#gid=1368787047 JDK8 we have 43 projects working with JDK8, leaving 9 projects anipbu is following up with them
18:21:58 <colindixon> #info jersey/jaxrs may be pushed past beryllium
18:22:19 <colindixon> #info AD-SAL code removal will happen on 12/3 assuming VTN remains on time
18:23:09 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow
18:23:10 <colindixon> #info rovarga asks if we want to push to use the JDK8 build to produce final Beryllium artifacts or not
18:25:10 <colindixon> #info anipbu notes that we have JDK8 autorelease, but we haven't made a decision
18:27:11 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that as of a year ago, some projects were using enunciate which would require upgrading enunciate to a JDK8-compatibility version
18:27:57 <colindixon> #info colindixon says that his take is unless there's a compelling reason not to, we should aim to try to build our release artifacts using JDK8
18:28:27 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if JDK8 javac will run under a Java 7 JRE
18:29:27 <colindixon> #topic stable/lithium
18:29:46 <colindixon> #Info the lithium SR3 cuttoff is 11/15 at 11:59p UTC for release on 11/19
18:29:54 <colindixon> #topic system integration and test
18:30:13 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen says all is quiet
18:30:52 <colindixon> #topic infastructure
18:32:07 <colindixon> #info on 11/5 a change on puppet manifests caused gerrit mail to break, we are missing gerrit mail from 11/5 to 11/10, this is fixed, but patches created in that window are still misbehaving
18:32:35 <colindixon> #topic Sharon Aicler as committer on AAA
18:33:15 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2015-November/004124.html the mail with 4 +1s from Daniel, Luis, Colin, and Chris Price
18:33:19 <dlenrow> +1
18:33:26 <colindixon> #info dlenrow votes +1
18:33:27 <jmedved> jmedved +1
18:33:30 <edwarnicke> edwarnicke: +1
18:33:34 <colindixon> #info jmedved vots +1
18:33:39 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke votes +1
18:33:49 <LuisGomez> +1
18:33:54 <mohnish_> #info mohnish +1
18:33:57 <colindixon> #agree Sharon is a committer on AAA
18:34:01 <colindixon> #info mohnish_ votes +1
18:34:19 <colindixon> #topic Spectrometer creation review
18:34:21 <TomNadeau> #file https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-DZSIWavQTCyrfNEBEAPr1zbs9RvdG2KQ7MtBLYESQc/edit?pli=1#slide=id.p
18:34:26 <TomNadeau> #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1-DZSIWavQTCyrfNEBEAPr1zbs9RvdG2KQ7MtBLYESQc/edit?pli=1#slide=id.p
18:34:27 * dfarrell07 is here now, sorry
18:34:31 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
18:37:18 <abhijitkumbhare> I would like to say I had checked spectrometer stats (for an internal preso) around end of September & again after TomNadeau proposed this project. Appears TomNadeau & his intern has been working - and looks very good improvement. Earlier could not see results for different releases (Hydrogen, Helium, etc.) - now we can. I believe some other stuff. Impressed :)
18:37:48 <colindixon> #link http://spectrometer.opendaylight.org/ we have a spectrometer today which provides stats, but but it's been unreliable of late and hard to maintain without it being a formal project where failrues and others things can be tracked
18:38:43 <colindixon> #info TomN notes that the current thing is a fork of stackalytics from about two years ago, as a fork, moving things forward is hard
18:41:57 <colindixon> #info TomN also points out that the current code is not easy to read and modify, the changes aren't well-dcoumented, the tests don't run against live code, and a variety of other reasons why we want a new project that is a formal project in opendaylight
18:43:19 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Spectrometer project proposal wiki page
18:43:39 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2015-October/000370.html proposed on 10/23
18:44:54 <colindixon> #info zxiiro says he'd like to be invovled
18:46:09 <colindixon> #info anipbu said he'd like to contribute as well
18:47:24 * dfarrell07 is going mobile, on the way to his talk, trying to watch IRC and listen but ping me if I'm missing a vote or something
18:48:29 <colindixon> #info zxiiro and anipbu will be added as committers
18:48:46 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke and colindixon suggest that the scope be broadened to other sources fo project-related stats as well
18:51:29 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC move the spectrometer project from a propoposal to be an incubation project pending IPR? -1, 0, +1
18:51:29 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC move the spectrometer project from a propoposal to be an incubation project pending IPR? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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18:51:35 <colindixon> dfarrell07:
18:51:41 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
18:51:42 <jmedved> #vote +1
18:51:43 <mohnish_> #vote +1
18:51:44 <colindixon> #vote +1
18:51:47 <TomNadeau> what are Tom's coordinates?
18:51:52 <dlenrow> #vote +1
18:51:55 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
18:51:56 <colindixon> TomNadeau: zxiiro on IRC
18:52:00 <colindixon> TomNadeau: Than
18:52:13 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
18:52:14 <phrobb_> Than == Thanh
18:52:14 <TomNadeau> got it. thx
18:52:26 <zxiiro> TomNadeau: zxiiro / Thanh / thanh.ha@linuxfoundation.org
18:52:28 <colindixon> #endvote
18:52:28 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC move the spectrometer project from a propoposal to be an incubation project pending IPR?" Results are
18:52:28 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): dlenrow, jmedved, LuisGomez, dfarrell07, colindixon, abhijitkumbhare, mohnish_
18:52:44 <colindixon> #agreed the spectrometer project is moved to incubation
18:54:28 <phrobb_> sounds like cookies
18:54:30 <colindixon> #topic cookies
18:54:32 <colindixon> #endmeeting