14:30:01 <phrobb1> #startmeeting weekly lithium irc sync
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14:30:14 <phrobb1> #topic Roll Call
14:30:30 <regXboi> #info regXboi - neutron northbound and other gadflyness
14:30:30 <phrobb1> #info Project Leaders and TSC members please #info in
14:30:59 <phrobb1> good morning regxboi
14:31:20 <regXboi> #info since regXboi doesn't see colindixon yet, he'll also claim the TSC mantle in the interim
14:31:48 <fabiel> #info fabiel for Persistence Store Service
14:32:28 <phrobb1> Colin Dixon will likely not attend this morning.  He has a conflict
14:33:06 <tbachman> phrobb1: I think alagalah will be here shortly
14:33:19 <alagalah> #info alagalah GBP
14:33:28 <phrobb1> thanks tbachman
14:33:32 <phrobb1> welcome alagalah
14:33:33 <tbachman> np!
14:33:35 <alagalah> phrobb1: Sorry, didn't see it on Cal ... maybe invite expired
14:33:38 <alagalah> phrobb1: Thanks mate...
14:33:41 <Prem> #info Prem VPNService
14:34:08 <phrobb1> alagalah:  I just looked a few minutes ago and it looks like its on the calendar for me.  Anyone else *not* see it on the ODL calendar?
14:34:58 <alagalah> phrobb1: Its probably me...
14:35:15 <phrobb1> #info We are very light on attendance this morning.  Let's get started though....
14:35:31 <phrobb1> #topic Topics of General Concern
14:35:39 <alagalah> phrobb1: I have one for this topic
14:35:50 <phrobb1> Please go alagalah
14:36:16 <alagalah> #info alagalah asks if anyone from OFP is on to address Bug: 2913 and related (digging up bug id)
14:37:35 <phrobb1> I have not seen anyone from OFP join the meeting yet alagalah
14:37:41 <alagalah> #info Bugs 2896, 2913 and 2895 ... all marked blocker, and at least one of those is in SR3
14:38:10 <alagalah> #info alagalah notes that flaviof has asked that at least one patch is reverted until issue is resolved
14:38:22 <flaviof> thanks alagalah
14:38:42 <regXboi> anybody from ODL parent here?
14:38:43 <phrobb1> alagalah:  From last time abhijitkumbhare had an action to follow up with (I assume) those bugs.  Was any progress on that made?
14:39:10 <alagalah> #info alagalah notes that his intention is to get the GBP POC up into "rel-eng" land (jenkins verify) ASAP, we can try mininet (RHEL6) until we get docker (RHEL7)
14:39:17 <flaviof> phrobb1: from my perspective, no progress has been made on this issue
14:39:25 <regXboi> #info regXboi is looking at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=414577 and is realizing that we need to bump org.eclipse.persistence versions from 2.5.0 to 2.6.0
14:39:27 <alagalah> #info alagalah notes that if we do that, you will see continual failures with the build
14:39:36 <phrobb1> OK, thanks flaviof
14:40:14 <regXboi> #info regXboi asks if anybody other than NN cares if that version bump happens
14:40:14 <alagalah> phrobb1: flaviof https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/controller-dev/2015-March/008690.html
14:40:32 <alagalah> #info alagalah notes abhijit says they should revert https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/controller-dev/2015-March/008690.html
14:41:05 <alagalah> regXboi: I know we use it, so until I look into it I cant comment
14:41:21 <alagalah> regXboi: So would this impact the rev we use ?
14:41:26 <regXboi> alagalah: take a look and let me know on the side
14:41:31 <alagalah> regXboi: ack
14:41:36 <phrobb1> alagalah and flaviof:  Should the OFP bugs be put on the "weather" page… given that they are affecting OVSDB and GBP?
14:41:58 <regXboi> phrobb1: I would say they should go on
14:42:10 <phrobb1> thanks regXboi
14:42:18 <flaviof> phrobb1: +1
14:42:19 <alagalah> phrobb1: Ack.
14:42:26 <tykeal> alagalah: is there an issue with the current F20 docker instance that sandbox / releng currently have available?
14:43:18 <tbachman> tykeal: I think we were looking to use a newer kernel — allows us to use OVS with multiple docker containers on a single VM
14:43:19 <alagalah> tykeal: tbachman can answer that, I know you guys have been chatting, but net-net we have a mininet POC too we could use, and should.
14:43:44 <alagalah> tykeal: tbachman as long as we can use OVS 2.3 then I'm good.
14:43:48 <tbachman> tykeal: We meailed a while back — guess I never provided the context/goals of what we were trying to do
14:43:58 <tbachman> s/meailed/emailed/ :)
14:43:58 <tykeal> ah, ok. CentOS 7.1 released yesterday, so I'm going to be starting refreshes of the slave instances fairly soon
14:44:05 <tbachman> tykeal: nice :)
14:44:18 <alagalah> tykeal: tbachman multi VM / OVS would be important (note we wouldn't have caught GroupMod without multi OVS setup) but right now we need to have something out there to catch issues as they are merged etc
14:44:38 <Prem> I was trying to reach Abhijit and he is another call.  I will take an action to remind him on the same.
14:44:39 <tykeal> we were holding off updating slaves to EL7 because we couldn't get OpenJDK 1.8 until 7.1 was released
14:44:46 <alagalah> tykeal: phrobb1 Regardless, we still have blocker bugs.
14:45:01 <tbachman> tykeal: ACK — I wasn’t aware that it had been released, so that’s a good thing
14:45:34 <tykeal> C7.1 released within the last 24 hours, so it's understandable. what with today being April 1st ;)
14:45:52 <alagalah> phrobb1: Should someone take an action re: these bugs and the weather page? Or shouldn't that be on gzhao's tracking sheet ?
14:46:32 <phrobb1> alagalah:  I was going to ask you to do it then figured I'd put it up there and you and flaviof could augment it if needed
14:46:55 <flaviof> phrobb1: ack
14:47:35 <alagalah> phrobb1: Ack... I'd like to change the weather page format too. I assume I work with edwarnicke on that ?
14:48:06 <alagalah> phrobb1: (we need a quick summary section, with links to more descriptive stuff down page)
14:48:19 <edwarnicke> alagalah: What other info do you want?  The format mostly was colindixon's brain child... from my perspective most of my role would be to just make sure we capture any additional info correctly for existing weather reports
14:48:24 <phrobb1> alagalah:  yea that's a good idea
14:48:56 <alagalah> phrobb1: Can you #action that  for me todo ? I'm adding it to my list of things to do today
14:49:23 <alagalah> (I don't think I am a chair)
14:49:32 <alagalah> #action alagalah to modify weather page to include summary
14:49:41 * alagalah shrug I guess thats ok
14:49:52 <phrobb1> #action alagalah to work with edwarnicke and Colin Dixon on changing the format of the Weather Page
14:49:59 <alagalah> edwarnicke: Its wonderful, I didn't say it was missing anything
14:50:01 <phrobb1> #chair alagalah tbachman
14:50:01 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: alagalah phrobb1 tbachman
14:50:15 <alagalah> edwarnicke: information wise... it would be nice to see a summary table
14:50:23 <edwarnicke> alagalah: +10000
14:50:28 <alagalah> edwarnicke: Let me do it and show (ie speak in patches ) :)
14:50:36 <edwarnicke> alagalah: I'm down with that :)
14:51:13 <alagalah> phrobb1: May we perhaps get an escalation on the OFP issues? It seems abhijit is for reverting (linked email above) ...
14:51:29 <phrobb1> #action phrobb to add OFP bugs to Weather Page
14:52:24 <phrobb1> alagalah:  My apologies for not being up on the OFP blockers.  Are you asking for an escalation to the TSC to help resolve?
14:53:37 <ttkacik1> alagalah: are this bugs blocking you API wise or implementation wise?
14:54:35 <ttkacik1> also question: is any other projects observing same bugs?
14:59:35 <phrobb1> ttkacik1:  I believe flaviof in OVSDB is also blocked on those bugs
15:00:08 <alagalah> ttkacik1: These are implementation wise
15:00:36 <alagalah> ttkacik1: As in we can't test effectively changes with a single node, we need to test things across nodes and at least one bug is that GroupMods aren't written to 2nd node
15:00:37 <flaviof> ttkacik1: phrobb1: that is correct. in a nutshell, I get lots of these: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0cb7c162f31cb90aeec6
15:00:40 <alagalah> (2913)
15:00:52 <alagalah> tykeal: Can you help me with wiki ? ping you unicast
15:01:57 <alagalah> phrobb1: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather How is this? (asked tykeal to help me get the TOC to one level)
15:08:29 <phrobb1> alagalah:  I assume the idea is to have a place to quickly see open items.  I would suggest a table with just "Item", "Reported Date", "Status - Open/Closed" and "Link To Detail" - then put the other fields you suggest in the detail.
15:09:15 <phrobb1> Are there other new areas of concern?  If not, should we review the other items on the Weather Report?… Do we have folks in this meeting that can speak to each of them?
15:09:27 <alagalah> phrobb1: I'd like to see who the source project is and who it impacts
15:09:40 <alagalah> phrobb1: Often times we know which upstream projects have the biggest impacts
15:10:11 <phrobb1> alagalah:  Would that not be better off in the detail of the issue though… instead of just in the summary?
15:10:58 <phrobb1> alagalah: regardless either way works for me.
15:11:39 <phrobb1> #topic Weather Page Review
15:12:00 <phrobb1> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather
15:12:41 * flaviof needs to drop off. Will review meeting minutes.
15:12:57 <alagalah> #info phrobb1 asks if weather page can just have " "Item", "Reported Date", "Status - Open/Closed" and "Link To Detail" - then put the other fields you suggest in the detail."
15:13:26 <phrobb1> edwarnicke:  Is everything on track for the cutover of Clustered Data Store for next Monday?
15:13:29 <alagalah> #info alagalah prefers it stays the way it is, that way he can see which projects are doing what as he knows which upstreams he needs and have the largest impact
15:13:46 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: One moment
15:13:46 <alagalah> #info alagalah notes he added sorting :)
15:13:59 <phrobb1> alagalah:  :-D
15:14:09 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Expected_breakages lists two issues
15:14:19 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: One is a patch that needs to get in or bgpcep will break
15:14:40 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: The other is an issue with SFC, I think I can sort that out with rpenno, but need to talk to him a bit more
15:15:24 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: I'd feel better though if more folks had reported in that it was working for them
15:16:04 <phrobb1> #info edwarnicke notes that two expected breakages are identified for the Clustered Data Store Switch Over
15:16:11 <alagalah> #info alagalah notes he installed odl-mdsal-clustering then "GBP features" and POC "works" (as much as it can with existing bugs)
15:16:35 <phrobb1> #info edwarnicke would feel much better if more projects had reported that they had tested and it was working for them
15:17:45 <phrobb1> #action edwarnicke to talk more with rpenno on SFC breakage from the Clustered Datastore Switch Over
15:19:20 <phrobb1> edwarnicke:  One question.  I note that the two topics on the weather page have "expected breakages", "Scheduled Date" etc, but they don't seem to be in the template.  Is there a reason for that?
15:19:44 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: I think those crept in as needed
15:20:05 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: Basically, folks need to know when to expect a thing to happen, and have a place to report issues that are known
15:20:27 <alagalah> phrobb1: edwarnicke I threw them on there as things I'd like to see... its basically how I can quickly look, sort etc and add it to my long list of "things to check every day"
15:20:30 <phrobb1> edwarnicke:  OK.  They seem valuable for the template
15:20:48 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: Oh good :)
15:20:49 <alagalah> phrobb1: edwarnicke Going AFK... ping me unicast/email if you need anything
15:21:10 * edwarnicke is always comforted to have confirmation of small bouts of non-delusionality ;)
15:21:16 <edwarnicke> alagalah: ack
15:21:23 <phrobb1> #topic Karaf 3.0.3 Upgrade
15:21:43 <phrobb1> edwarnicke:  Is there any update or info you want to share (or request) concerning the Karaf upgrade?
15:22:00 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: Checking
15:22:41 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: I'd love to see more projects listed here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Projects_that_have_tested_w.2Fo_issues
15:24:07 <phrobb1> #info edwarnicke requests for projects to test with Karaf 3.0.3 and post their success or issues on the Weather Page
15:24:36 <phrobb1> edwarnicke:  Anything else on the Karaf upgrade?
15:24:51 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: Just folks trying it out would be good
15:25:03 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: I did my level best to make sure it was working before posting the event
15:25:18 <edwarnicke> phrobb1: So all breakage from here is a surprise, and the more folks test, the less suprise we will have
15:25:53 <phrobb1> #action ALL PROJECTS that have not yet tested out using Karaf 3.0.3 need to do so and post their results (success or breakage) on the Weather Page
15:26:19 <phrobb1> #topic Any Final Topics?
15:26:28 <phrobb1> Anything else for today?
15:26:41 <phrobb1> going once.....
15:26:55 <phrobb1> going twice…..
15:27:11 <alagalah> ah
15:27:13 <alagalah> yes
15:27:14 <alagalah> but...
15:27:22 <alagalah> phrobb1: I made it back but the gavel is dropping
15:27:32 <phrobb1> Yes alagalah ?
15:27:49 <phrobb1> you made it under the wire.  You have another topic?
15:28:00 <alagalah> phrobb1: What is best email list to send question about API FREEZE and what an "API is and is not" (ie you make a yang change, it makes it pingable by REST, is that an API ?)
15:28:04 <alagalah> Release ?
15:28:30 <phrobb1> Yes, I would put it to both TSC and Release
15:28:41 <alagalah> phrobb1: ie I want to move some internal Maps to the MD-SAL data store... a user than use GET to see them... bingo... API!
15:28:52 <alagalah> phrobb1: Thanks mate, done...
15:28:57 <alagalah> phrobb1: EOT for me :)
15:29:03 <phrobb1> Sounds good alagalah
15:29:18 <phrobb1> back to closing the meeting… Last call for topics
15:29:37 <phrobb1> #topic Cookies
15:29:46 <phrobb1> #endmeeting