15:56:51 <Sai_> #startmeeting MD-SAL Interest Call
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15:56:57 <Sai_> #chair colindixon
15:56:57 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: Sai_ colindixon
15:57:13 * colindixon jumps on webex
15:57:29 <Sai_> #topic last-meeting-minutes
15:57:53 <Sai_> #link - https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/md_sal_interest_call/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_interest_call.2016-09-06-15.57.html
15:58:00 <Sai_> #topic - Agenda
15:58:56 <Sai_> #info - 1. Call for any topics to be added to the agenda
15:59:08 <Sai_> #info - 2. Review action items
15:59:21 <Sai_> #info - 3. Bug 6577
15:59:32 <Sai_> #info - 4. Carbon planning
16:00:06 <Sai_> #info - 4. Blocking bugs for boron & review query
16:00:24 <Sai_> #info - 5. Review code change dashboards
16:00:39 <Sai_> #topic - Call for any topics
16:03:45 <Sai_> #info - Stephen adds a new topic - Breakup/moving out artifacts from controller to other projects
16:04:14 <rgoulding> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Carbon_Dev_Forum
16:04:55 <Sai_> #info - colindixon adds new topic dev forum topics and interests
16:05:04 <Sai_> #link - https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Carbon_Dev_Forum
16:05:57 <Sai_> #info - Brocade has around 20 people registered for summit
16:06:42 <adetalhouet> Inocybe has around 10
16:06:54 <Sai_> #info - Robert from Cisco will be attending
16:07:13 <Sai_> #info - Inocybe has around 10 people attending summit
16:07:18 <Sai_> thanks adetalhouet
16:07:34 <Sai_> #info - one more person from cisco likely to join
16:10:23 <Sai_> #info - summit talks are different from developer design forum
16:12:02 <Sai_> #info - DDF is more of engineering & design work
16:12:14 <Sai_> #topic - Review Action items
16:12:36 <Sai_> #info - [DONE] Stephen to file an issue to track features migration - Bug 6652
16:13:15 <Sai_> #info - [DONE] TomP to create one more patch for apply snapshot
16:13:54 <Sai_> #info - [DONE] TomP to create a new bug for only bug in cluster and add it o spreadsheet
16:14:23 <Sai_> #Info - necessary steps were taken by TomP to de-escalate the issue
16:16:24 <anipbu> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=199721620
16:16:30 <Sai_> #Action - TomP to release note "rapidly swapping candidate stuff"
16:16:43 <Sai_> #topic - RC
16:18:09 <Sai_> #info - All projects expect controller and mdsal are ready for build
16:18:20 <rgoulding> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Boron_Release_Plan#RC3.5
16:18:48 <Sai_> #link - https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Boron_Release_Plan#RC3.5
16:19:41 <Sai_> #topic - Review Action items
16:19:54 <Sai_> #info - [DONE] - Ryan to open bug(s) wrt moving projects to features-parent (off opendaylight-karaf-empty) - Bug 6709
16:20:03 <Sai_> #topic - Bug 6577
16:20:15 <Sai_> #info - Occasionally, DTCL delete notification does not include "data before"
16:20:24 <Sai_> #link - https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6577
16:21:01 <Sai_> #info - get data notification seems to have null value, due to which topology is not updated.
16:21:58 <Sai_> #info - Milos is able to reproduce consistently
16:22:23 <Sai_> #info - six out of 100 prefixes are left over and seen in both boron and beryllium
16:23:12 <Sai_> #info - On Beryllium it was on cluster
16:25:20 <Sai_> #info - None from the call are aware of the bug and its impact
16:26:17 <Sai_> #info - Issue to be discussed offline
16:26:46 <Sai_> #topic - Breakup/moving out artifacts from controller to other projects
16:27:58 <Sai_> #info - Temporarily move jolokia out of the project
16:28:29 <Sai_> #info - default settings like logback_settings to be moved
16:29:20 <Sai_> #info - deprecate or move enunciate.xml , Alexis thinks Jetty might be using this file.
16:31:36 <Sai_> #info - lots of runtime depends on md-sal, hence we cannot push further up. (odlparent ..)
16:32:09 <Sai_> #info - Goal is to put things in necessarily right place rather than in controller
16:33:52 <Sai_> #info - controller still has stuff which should belong in mdsal
16:35:22 <Sai_> #info - API in controller has mappings in mdsal
16:35:26 <anipbu> If we split the controller project, we should do so earlier in the release cycle rather than later.
16:36:10 <Sai_> #info -  anipbu says "If we split the controller project, we should do so earlier in the release cycle rather than later"
16:36:33 <Sai_> #info - TomP says it is good to discuss with robert
16:37:25 <Sai_> #info - Removing commons/opendaylight is going to be nightmare. Mostly used in netconf / BGP
16:39:56 <Sai_> #info - yangtools became kind of dump of utils
16:42:33 <Sai_> #info - Common utilities might be good topic to discuss during DDF
16:43:26 <rgoulding> Sai_: do you want to paste Colin's notes here?
16:43:43 <adetalhouet> Stuff in Controller to move out:
16:43:43 <adetalhouet> Config Subsystem
16:43:43 <adetalhouet> Blueprint
16:43:44 <adetalhouet> => config and wiring?
16:43:44 <adetalhouet> Threadpools
16:43:44 <adetalhouet> Netty
16:43:46 <adetalhouet> Protocol Framework (Netty Connections)
16:43:50 <adetalhouet> Benchmark
16:43:50 <Sai_> #info - Stuff in Controller to move out: Config Subsystem Blueprint => config and wiring? Threadpools Netty Protocol Framework (Netty Connections) Benchmark => infrautils Lots of MD-SAL breadcrumbs * Old APIs * InMemoryDataStore implementation => MD-SAL? commons.opendaylight => ??? odlparent checkstyle => odlparent
16:43:52 <adetalhouet> => infrautils
16:43:54 <adetalhouet> Lots of MD-SAL breadcrumbs
16:43:56 <adetalhouet> * Old APIs
16:43:58 <adetalhouet> * InMemoryDataStore implementation
16:44:00 <adetalhouet> => MD-SAL?
16:44:02 <adetalhouet> commons.opendaylight
16:44:04 <adetalhouet> => ??? odlparent
16:44:06 <adetalhouet> checkstyle
16:44:08 <adetalhouet> => odlparent
16:44:08 <Sai_> thanks adetalhouet rgoulding
16:44:10 <adetalhouet> Thanks Sai_
16:44:52 <Sai_> #info colindixon notes following topics needs further discussion - Stuff in Controller to move out: Config Subsystem Blueprint => config and wiring? Threadpools Netty Protocol Framework (Netty Connections) Benchmark => infrautils Lots of MD-SAL breadcrumbs * Old APIs * InMemoryDataStore implementation => MD-SAL? commons.opendaylight => ??? odlparent checkstyle => odlparent
16:45:19 <colindixon> Sai_: I'll try to paste that in here
16:45:51 <Sai_> colindixon: already pasted
16:46:22 <Sai_> #topic - or.json licensing
16:47:23 <Sai_> #info - Phil reached out to Douglas , if then provide any license updates.
16:48:05 <colindixon> #Info Subset of stuff to move out of controller and to where: {Config Subsysrtem and Blueprint} => config and wiring project, {Threadpools, Netty, Protocol Framework (Netty)} => infrautils, {Lots of MD-SAL pieces} => MD-SAL project?, {commons.opednaylight} => odlparent, {checkstyle} => odlparent?, {benchmarks} => ???
16:48:23 <Sai_> #info - Problem exists for two years, if intention is to fix correctly it makes sense to wait
16:50:30 <Sai_> #info - There are existing vulnerabilities in android too
16:51:57 <Sai_> #Info - jersey / jackson had issue with different order of loading bundles in karaf
16:53:08 <Sai_> #info - colindixon thinks there should be a separate meeting to discuss further
16:55:42 <Sai_> #info - Bug 5995 / 5996 are related to current topic
16:57:37 <Sai_> #Action - Stephen to update bugs 5955 / 5966 with information discussed ert or.json licensisng
16:57:43 <Sai_> #undo
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16:57:48 <Sai_> #Action - Stephen to update bugs 5955 / 5966 with information discussed ert or.json licensing
16:58:40 <Sai_> #topic - participants
16:59:32 <Sai_> #info - Sai / Phil / Ryan / Ajay L / Alexis / An / Colin / Filip / Igor / Stephen / TomP / Tomas / Vratko
16:59:39 <Sai_> #endmeeting