========================== #opendaylight-meeting: TSC ========================== Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-03-24-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 17:00:33) * mohnish anumala (mohnish_, 17:00:38) * colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:53) * edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:01:00) * Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:01:00) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=44540#Agenda the agenda for today it's usual place (colindixon, 17:01:18) * Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 17:01:26) * gkaempfer (gkaempfer, 17:01:28) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-03-17-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 17:01:32) * ACTION: colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron? (colindixon, 17:01:52) * LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:02:37) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004899.html maintaining cleaner committer lists (colindixon, 17:02:44) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004933.html thread on openflow plugin lessons learned (colindixon, 17:03:01) * ACTION: zxiiro will look more into maven central now that we're at least signing things (colindixon, 17:03:16) * ACTION: ChrisPriceAB and phrobb_ have heather come and talk to the ODL community about how to have a bigger presence at OpenStack (colindixon, 17:03:36) * TSC mailling list votes and discussions (colindixon, 17:03:56) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-February/004633.html tsc election discussion (colindixon, 17:04:27) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004922.html meeting minutes from the Board-tech commmunity regarding TSC elections (colindixon, 17:05:04) * after some time for that to quiesce, phrobb will start a movement to makre progress (colindixon, 17:05:21) * ACTION: phrobb to drive progress on TSC elections (colindixon, 17:05:29) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004881.html MPLS-TP project has asked for a creation review over e-mail because of time zone differences (colindixon, 17:06:09) * colindixon's inclination is to start a creation review thread to ask for feedback by next week, and the vote in person next week or over e-mail next week (colindixon, 17:07:39) * ACTION: colindixon to start creation review thread for MPLS-TP (colindixon, 17:07:48) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-March/000447.html second MPLS-TP-related project proposal (colindixon, 17:08:06) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-March/000454.html some discussion about commonality between the two MPLS-TP project prooposals (colindixon, 17:08:34) * events (colindixon, 17:09:35) * ACTION: colindixon to figure out when we're willing to make the Boron release plan as something that's not tentative (colindixon, 17:10:12) * LINK: https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 17:10:25) * phrobb asks when we'd like to do a hackfest for Boron, right now that would be at the end of June (colindixon, 17:10:38) * colindixon, jamoluhrsen, and dfarrell07 say they'd like to have one (colindixon, 17:10:48) * ACTION: phrobb to send out a thread about a hackfest at the end of june (colindixon, 17:11:03) * tykeal notes that the last week in june is the week after the OPNFV summit in berlin (colindixon, 17:11:23) * OpenStack is the last week in April, peoople make be reaching out for demos at the booth (colindixon, 17:11:39) * there's a mini-summit for ODL at the OPNFV summit in Berlin (colindixon, 17:11:53) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1hfYPBqK4B6vtSRdhyT5Gbq7aMRjJs7fPzbVl31OEL7M/viewform CFP for ODL mini-summit at the OPNFV summit in Berlin (colindixon, 17:12:25) * LINK: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opnfv-summit/program/cfp OPNFV Summit CFP, closes end of the month (ChrisPriceAB, 17:13:12) * boron (colindixon, 17:13:41) * Please provide feedback to OpenFlowPlugin by April 7. Meeting on April 4 during TWS to discuss issues/concerns/bugs with OpenFlowPlugin migration efforts. (anipbu, 17:13:59) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Unmerged_Patch_for_projects_to_test_OpenFlow_Plugin_default_design_to_Lithium (anipbu, 17:14:05) * We are missing the M1 status report from l2switch, snmp, tcpmd5. These projects have been notified. (anipbu, 17:14:12) * Boron M1 Offset 2 Status is due Today 3/24. This is assuming that we keep with the provisional (anipbu, 17:14:18) * stable/beryllium (colindixon, 17:14:27) * Beryllium-SR1 was shipped, the branch is unlocked, versions were bumped (colindixon, 17:14:39) * next release is on 4/28 with a cutoff of the sunday before at 11:59p UTC (colindixon, 17:14:54) * system integration and test (colindixon, 17:15:03) * integration/distribution has a new PTL vrpolak (Vratko), congrats! (colindixon, 17:15:26) * there seems to be some differences between normal tests and the autorelease distributions, e.g., the port conflict issue between NetIDE and VPN service (colindixon, 17:16:12) * the TWS on Monday will cover (at least for part of it) the changing use of experimental features (colindixon, 17:16:29) * jamoluhrsen would like to ask for test contacts to attend (colindixon, 17:16:48) * abhijitkumbhare notes that Monday is a holiday in europe (colindixon, 17:17:14) * ACTION: colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing (colindixon, 17:17:19) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Ports the ports we use for refernece (colindixon, 17:17:42) * infrastructure (colindixon, 17:17:48) * the first things are moving to to the private cloud, things are going well (colindixon, 17:18:03) * there will be some outages on Saturday, expect flakiness (colindixon, 17:18:15) * ACTION: tykeal to forward the outage information to release@lists.opendaylight.org (colindixon, 17:19:02) * this will be the last jenkins blip for a while, there will be some other outages as we upgrade our infra while we're not near the end of the release, e.g., nexus, sonar (colindixon, 17:20:25) * after that, we'll be bringing up the sandbox inside the private cloud and test things (colindixon, 17:20:36) * after that we'll start to plan our outage to bring jenkins into the private cloud (colindixon, 17:20:50) * after that, zuul and nodepool (colindixon, 17:21:03) * genius creation review (colindixon, 17:21:22) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Genius (colindixon, 17:21:31) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-March/000415.html proposed on 3/4/2016 (colindixon, 17:21:42) * LINK: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/ODDF_Generic_Network_functions.pdf (daya_k, 17:22:19) * this project tries to tackle application co-existences with a focus on OpenFlow (colindixon, 17:23:44) * colindixon thinks the scope isn't really a scope statement, which should probably be fixed, the description comes a lot closer, so maybe just flopping the two would work? (colindixon, 17:24:47) * daya_k says that the key goal is to try to minimize the design time interactions required to co-exist and instead push it to run-time (colindixon, 17:26:57) * mostly focuses on OpenFlow so far, solving 3 different problems (1) the table-0 demuxing problem, (2) partitioning other resources for openfow, (3) try to allow applicattions to interact, e.g., GOTO TABLE for another app and or via MD-SAL in the control plane (colindixon, 17:28:23) * daya_k talks about the interface manager (talking about network interfaces, not java interfaces) to handle port like things with tunnels, VLANs and the like (colindixon, 17:31:18) * colindixon suggests maybe considering a different word than interface manager since that's going to (maybe) cause havoc because of the java keyword interface? (colindixon, 17:32:05) * edwarnicke asks how this interacts with topology model, daya_k says it doesn't for right now (colindixon, 17:33:07) * daya_k says that it uses the ietf-interfaces YANG data model, edwarnicke note that he has concerns about this because it's really meant for device control (colindixon, 17:33:53) * Prem_ and daya_k say they'll look into this (colindixon, 17:34:00) * colindixon says that he thinks moving the augmentations from ietf-interfaces to the topology model will be pretty easy (colindixon, 17:34:40) * vina_ermagan asks if this is going to be speciifcally for OpenFlow devices or more generic? (colindixon, 17:35:48) * daya_k says for now it's built on OpenFlow, but the plan is to make it so that it can have more southbounds for this (colindixon, 17:37:16) * daya_k aslso talks about partitionion (at least virtual) OpenFlow swtiches tables into pipelines with applications having their own pipelines (colindixon, 17:38:22) * shared overlay tunnel service will try to avoid each project maintaining it's own tunnels (colindixon, 17:40:09) * shared aliveness monitoring to test health of tunnels (colindixon, 17:40:39) * ID manager to get unique IDs in ODL, why not use UUIDs? (colindixon, 17:41:05) * colindixon note that the scope and description will be flopped (buleleted list is the scope) (colindixon, 17:43:34) * daya_k and other say the committer list and resources and commited resoureces are complete (colindixon, 17:44:20) * +1 (gkaempfer, 17:47:26) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the genius project as an incubation project assuming that they make the above changes?" Results are, +1: 9 (colindixon, 17:48:05) * rovarga proxy for jmedved (rovarga_tmp, 17:48:07) * colindixon doesn't know if eshuvka_ is a TSC member or delegate, so he things that's 8 +1s (colindixon, 17:48:37) * phrobb says that he notes that daya_k and Prem_ aren not committers, daya_k says yes (colindixon, 17:49:02) * mohnish_ asks if being offset 1 is right, colindixon says (a) he thinks it is and (b) it's not permanent in either event (colindixon, 17:49:39) * vishnoianil asks if Yi is invovled, he is (colindixon, 17:49:56) * AGREED: Genius is now an incubation project (colindixon, 17:50:34) * NATApp creation review (colindixon, 17:50:40) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:NATApp_Plugin (colindixon, 17:50:44) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-February/000402.html proposed on 2/23/2016 (colindixon, 17:50:57) * oops no i am not (eshuvka_, 17:51:15) * colindixon worries a bit about the use of the word "mostly" in the scope (colindixon, 17:52:36) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC allow the genius project to join Boron at offest 1 even though it's technically too late?" Results are, +1: 8 (colindixon, 17:54:40) * AGREED: the Genius project will be allowed to join boron at offset 1 (colindixon, 17:56:15) * edwarnicke points out that having a complex external dependency (like MySQL) tend to get adoped less, having it also work with easier to deploy things, e.g., sqlite might help (colindixon, 17:56:21) * they say they'll look at it (colindixon, 17:56:26) * further points out that sqllite itself has been problematic in the past... would counsel something like derby etc that work well portably ;) (edwarnicke, 17:56:58) * rovarga_tmp asks if they plan to support things other than openflow pluging, the answer is not for right now, but they might do other things (colindixon, 17:57:13) * vivek says there are plans to add NAT to the VPN service in boron as well (colindixon, 17:57:40) * abhijitkumbhare says that they should be aware that they will use the lithium plugin, they will be (colindixon, 17:59:09) * rovarga_tmp asks if the REST APIS will be RESTCONF, they say yes (colindixon, 17:59:37) * gkaempfer encourages them to use external databases that are consitent with clustering (colindixon, 18:00:24) * colindixon says they might look at TSDR, Centinel or persitence for ideas (colindixon, 18:00:40) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the NATApp project as an incubation project?" Results are, +1: 9 (colindixon, 18:02:00) * AGREED: NATApp plugin is now an incubation project (colindixon, 18:02:23) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Lisp_Flow_Mapping:Graduation_Proposal (vina_ermagan, 18:02:31) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Lisp_Flow_Mapping:Graduation_Proposal (vina_ermagan, 18:02:38) * LISP Flow mapping graduation review (colindixon, 18:02:47) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Lisp_Flow_Mapping:Graduation_Proposal (colindixon, 18:02:51) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004858.html asekd for it on 3/10/2016 (colindixon, 18:03:11) * been in ODL since Hydrogen (colindixon, 18:03:21) * colindixon notes that they've had some of the best docs of anyone (colindixon, 18:03:30) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC allow the NATApp plugin to join Boron?" Results are, +1: 6 (colindixon, 18:04:16) * AGREED: NATApp project can join boron (colindixon, 18:04:27) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC graduate the LISP flow mapping project to mature?" Results are, +1: 7 (colindixon, 18:05:10) * AGREED: LISP Flow Mapping is now a mature project (colindixon, 18:05:28) * cookies (colindixon, 18:05:44) Meeting ended at 18:06:03 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * ChrisPriceAB * ChrisPriceAB and phrobb_ have heather come and talk to the ODL community about how to have a bigger presence at OpenStack * colindixon * colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron? * colindixon to start creation review thread for MPLS-TP * colindixon to figure out when we're willing to make the Boron release plan as something that's not tentative * colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing * jamoluhrsen * colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing * tykeal * tykeal to forward the outage information to release@lists.opendaylight.org * **UNASSIGNED** * zxiiro will look more into maven central now that we're at least signing things * phrobb to drive progress on TSC elections * phrobb to send out a thread about a hackfest at the end of june People present (lines said) --------------------------- * colindixon (141) * odl_meetbot (27) * ChrisPriceAB (14) * edwarnicke (11) * dfarrell07 (8) * gkaempfer (7) * rovarga_tmp (7) * mohnish_ (7) * LuisGomez (5) * vina_ermagan (4) * anipbu (4) * uri_ (4) * abhijitkumbhare (4) * eshuvka_ (3) * tykeal (3) * Prem_ (2) * jamoluhrsen (2) * daya_k (1) * vishnoianil (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4