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17:00:25 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing and roll call
17:00:32 <gkaempfer> #info gkaempfer
17:00:40 <colindixon> TSC members please #info in
17:00:43 <colindixon> #info colindixon
17:01:07 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
17:01:08 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=45906#Agenda today's agenda in it's usual place
17:01:16 <ttkacik> #info Tony Tkacik
17:01:21 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-04-21-17.00.html last meetings' minutes
17:01:23 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
17:01:42 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
17:01:59 <vishnoianil> #info vishnoianil
17:03:07 <jamoluhrsen> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-May/006476.html
17:03:10 <colindixon> #undo
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17:03:17 <mohnish_> #info mohnish anumala
17:03:24 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-May/006476.html mail trying to move carbon planning forward
17:03:35 <colindixon> #link #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-May/006476.html colindixon made the changes here to clarify the boron release plan
17:04:00 <jamoluhrsen> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-May/006475.html
17:04:23 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-May/006475.html planning openflow project reorganization
17:04:29 <colindixon> #action colindixon to reach out to tykeal to write up and send an e-mail about signing commits in gerrit
17:04:30 <colindixon> #action colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron?
17:04:31 <colindixon> #action colindixon to get anton to post JSON-RPC plugin slides here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:JSON-RPC2.0-plugin
17:04:54 <colindixon> #action tykeal to e-mail the TSC with the list of semi-archived silos to figure out how to proceed
17:06:02 <phrobb> #info for quorum we have colindixon gkaempfer dfarrell07 edwarnicke abhijitkumbhare vishnoianil  ttkacik mohnish_  we have quorum
17:06:20 <colindixon> #topic new TSC members
17:06:29 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-May/005170.html CAL elections have finished
17:06:48 <colindixon> #Info CALs are: colindixon, ttkacik, abhijitkumbhare, edwarnicke
17:07:31 <colindixon> #Info abhijitkumbhare introduces himself he's been around a while and mostly involved in openflowplugin
17:07:51 <colindixon> #info ttkacik has also been around a while—since the beginning of OpenDaylight
17:08:32 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-May/005158.html vishnoianil is replacing LuisGomez as Brocade's platinum designate
17:08:54 <colindixon> #info vishnoianil has also been around forever, was the first non-Cisco committer and worked before the first code drop
17:09:14 <colindixon> #topic MPLS-TP creation reviews
17:09:32 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004956.html MPLS-TP Service creation review
17:09:54 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-April/005033.html [Creation Review] MPLS-TP solution
17:10:09 <colindixon> #action colindixon to drive the MPLS-TP creation reviews to conclusion
17:10:24 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-May/005152.html Requesting more frequent releases from ODL
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17:11:09 <colindixon> #topic TSC list discussions and votes
17:11:12 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-May/005152.html Requesting more frequent releases from ODL
17:11:55 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if we've figured out how to meet Brady's needs in the short term
17:12:23 <colindixon> #info dfarrell07 says it's mixed for one installer in OPNFV (Apex) they are doing the right thing and it works, for others, things aren't as friendly
17:12:38 <colindixon> #info dfarrell07 says in the short term, it could work to use autorelease builds
17:13:23 <colindixon> #info there's a job to be done around cleaning up autorelease tests to allow for a quick glance evaluation of autorelease builds, integration/test is working on that
17:14:46 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-May/005149.html split-out projects and lifecycle states
17:15:02 <colindixon> #action dfarrell07 to ask Brady if what we're planning is meeting his needs
17:15:57 <colindixon> #topic events
17:16:08 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events
17:17:04 <colindixon> #Info the LF events people have come back with the week after the OPNFV summit in berlin as the best time for the Hackfest, Tu/W (6/28-29) at the doubletree in San Jose, the room would hold 100 people
17:17:26 <colindixon> #info that's a few days before API freeze for offset 2 and a few days before code freeze for offset 0
17:18:34 <colindixon> #Info edwarnicke points out that it's hard travel to do those two things back to back
17:18:53 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if we could move it 2 or 3 weeks earlier, phrobb says not really, no space
17:18:58 <edwarnicke> #info especially when one of those two things is in Europe and the other NA West Coast ;)
17:20:15 <jamoluhrsen> +1 on 6/29 +/- day
17:21:10 <colindixon> #Info dfarrell07 asks if it could be W/Th (6/29-6/30 to make travel a bit easier), that means that the second day would be the deadlines mentioned above (offset 0 M5, offset 2 M4)
17:21:36 <zxiiro> and July 1st is a Canadian holiday ;)
17:22:46 <colindixon> #Info dfarrell07 asks if it could be Th/F, people say try to avoid Fridays to end up traveling on the Saturday, also July 4th (in the US) and July 1st (in Canada) means it might be cutting into people's vacations
17:23:33 <colindixon> #action phrobb to send e-mail asking if the 6/29-30 date works for people
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17:23:54 <abhijitkumbhare> Personally I will not make it till around July 20 - but whatever works for the majority
17:24:10 <colindixon> #action phrobb to send e-mail asking if the 6/29-30 date works for people for a hackfest in the south bay
17:24:47 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/events/2016-09-27-000000-2016-09-29-000000/opendaylight-summit-2016 the CFP for the OpenDayligtht summit closes TOMORROW
17:25:03 <colindixon> #info we're in the high-30s now, but we're looking to be over 50, so it's actually looking pretty good
17:25:25 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/events/2016-06-20-000000-2016-06-23-000000/opnfv-summit OPNFV summit in Berlin starts on 6/20
17:25:38 <colindixon> #topic boron
17:26:04 <anipbu> #info There are plans to upgrade the distribution to Karaf 3.0.6 with a patch in odlparent.  Projects should test their projects against the patch if possible.
17:26:09 <anipbu> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/26323   <--- Patch upgrading Karaf
17:26:13 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Upgrade_to_Karaf_3.0.x   <--- Weather Item for Karaf Upgrade
17:26:31 <anipbu> #info DIDM is currently breaking Autorelease.  We are tracking it on bug 5843
17:26:36 <anipbu> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5843   <--- Bug Tracking Breakages
17:26:49 <anipbu> #info Boron M2 Offset 2 is due today.  Please send your status report.
17:27:02 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Boron_Release_Plan#M2:_Final_Release_Plan   <--- Status Template
17:27:51 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-April/005139.html Vratko asking questions about a stable distribution in Boron
17:29:29 <jamoluhrsen> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Boron_Release_Plan#Stable_and_Extended_Features  stable feature requirements
17:29:31 <colindixon> #action colindixon to ask offset 0 projects when/if they could have stable features and what they would be
17:29:35 <tykeal> IIRC a project can't have "stable" projects until they're mature
17:29:43 <tykeal> s/projects/features/
17:29:49 <jamoluhrsen> stable feature requirements are really tough
17:30:59 <colindixon> #info dfarrell07 says that this came up in the integration call and they concluded that it might be too late to have stable features in offset 0 projects which would prevent almost everything
17:31:09 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen notes that stable feature requirements are really tough
17:33:09 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that he's pretty sure that the MD-SAL meets all these requirements, and he's surprised that it couldn't do it in Boron
17:34:07 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that it's not so much that it couldn't meet the requirements now, but that some new feature changes (expected in Boron) might or might not meet those requirements today
17:35:05 <colindixon> #Info rovarga also notes that they will need to make sure there are no design issues in the APIs that would be stuck there to be stable
17:35:16 <colindixon> #topic stable/beryllium
17:36:06 <anipbu> #info We initially targeted Beryllium SR2 Release on 4/28, but our latest build has OPENFLOWPLUGIN test failures in the integration distribution test job.
17:36:10 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Beryllium/SR2/Status   <--- Status Summary
17:36:15 <anipbu> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5523   <--- OpenFlow Li Plugin Cluster Bug
17:36:18 <colindixon> #info it looks like there are regressions with the new openflow plugin tests with clustering
17:36:18 <anipbu> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/38369/   <--- Proposed Patch
17:38:32 <jamoluhrsen> I know there are real customers from real companies that are using the -li plugin.
17:38:41 <jamoluhrsen> we should not release with a regression
17:38:54 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if we should push SR2 out more than a week (already a week today) and fix the bug, or try to keep closer to schedule to avoid the regression
17:39:08 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen notes that "real customers from real companies that are using the -li plugin"
17:39:30 <colindixon> #info it sounds the consensus is to wait for a fix
17:41:44 <colindixon> #action abhijitkumbhare to either review or find people to review the openflowplugin patch to fix Be-SR2
17:41:48 <colindixon> #topic system integration and test
17:42:24 <colindixon> #info we had 9 system test waiver requests in Beryllium, we only have 1 so far for Carbon
17:42:33 <colindixon> #info please get them in
17:42:45 <colindixon> #topic infrastructure
17:43:29 <colindixon> #info the intent was to move the jenkins sandbox to the private cloud this weekend, but an issue was found and that's delaying things
17:44:07 <colindixon> #info continued work on build slaves, lots of changes around streamlined Vagrant definitions as well as soon docs on how to use the Vagrant definitions outside our CI
17:44:33 <colindixon> #info zxiiro says if you're using JJB, they release 1.5 this week, so there's an update to look at
17:45:06 <colindixon> #topic Mohamed El-Serngawy as a committer on AAA
17:45:12 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-May/005160.html
17:46:16 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC approve Mohamed El-Serngawy as a committer on AAA
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17:46:23 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC approve Mohamed El-Serngawy as a committer on AAA? -1,0,+1
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17:46:32 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:46:33 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:46:34 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
17:46:35 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:46:35 <mohnish_> #vote +1
17:46:38 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:46:38 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:47:10 <colindixon> ttkacik: ?
17:47:21 <colindixon> #endvote
17:47:21 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve Mohamed El-Serngawy as a committer on AAA?" Results are
17:47:21 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): gkaempfer, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, colindixon, mohnish_, vishnoianil, abhijitkumbhare
17:47:30 <colindixon> #info note ttkacik voted verbally +1
17:47:37 <colindixon> #agreed Mohamed El-Serngawy in now a committer on AAA
17:47:58 <colindixon> #topic OpenDove Archive Review
17:48:04 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Archive_Proposals/Open_DOVE
17:48:15 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004953.html posted on 3/28/2016
17:49:31 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that the project has been inactive for 18 months and the one remaining active committer (Ryan Moats) agreed with course of action
17:49:42 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC move the Open DOVE project to archived? -1,0,+1
17:49:42 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC move the Open DOVE project to archived? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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17:49:46 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:49:48 <mohnish_> #vote +1
17:49:48 <ttkacik> #vote +1
17:49:48 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:49:49 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
17:49:50 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:49:51 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:49:53 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:50:32 <colindixon> #endvote
17:50:32 <colindixon> #endvote
17:50:32 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC move the Open DOVE project to archived?" Results are
17:50:32 <odl_meetbot> +1 (8): gkaempfer, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, colindixon, ttkacik, mohnish_, vishnoianil, abhijitkumbhare
17:50:42 <colindixon> #agreed the Open DOVE project is now archived
17:50:57 <colindixon> #topic TSC chair elections
17:50:58 <tykeal> huzzah!
17:53:07 <colindixon> #action phrobb to kick off elections for TSC chair and how long the term will be, it's the same clause that specifies that term, so the board's existing waiver would likely apply
17:53:20 <colindixon> #action phrobb to inform the board that we're assuming the waiver applies to both
17:55:25 <colindixon> #agreed the TSC agrees that the next TSC chair's term should match the current TSC term (ending at the end of Boron)
17:55:45 <colindixon> #topic TSC election planning
17:55:54 <colindixon> #info we have another CAL election in ~5 months
17:56:06 <colindixon> #info we need a complete voting system for the new mechanics that works by then
17:56:39 <colindixon> #info this includes tooling, picking represented groups, and the properties of those groups
17:57:22 <vishnoianil> i just want to call out and say thanks for luis for his excellent contribution as a tsc member
17:57:33 <colindixon> #action dfarrell07 to drive forward tooling and planning for the next TSC election
17:58:01 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke notes that the framework seems to have agreement from everyone, colindixon notes that the only posisble complaint was that it might be too compliex
17:58:03 <phrobb> +1 vishnoianil Thanks for all of your sage advice as TSC member LuisGomez
17:58:06 <abhijitkumbhare> +1 to vishnoianil ’s point about LuisGomez - excellent contribution from him as a TSC member
17:58:29 <dfarrell07> huge thanks LuisGomez!
17:58:35 <jamoluhrsen> +1 to LuisGomez
17:58:36 <anipbu> thanks LuisGomez!
17:58:42 <mohnish_> thanks Luis
17:58:53 <colindixon> #info dfarrell07 is planning to help explain things simply so that others  can understant
17:59:04 <colindixon> #topic thanking Luis Gomez for his service
17:59:16 <LuisGomez> thanks all
17:59:44 <colindixon> #info everyone thanks Luis for his time on the TSC and everything he's done for the project, OpenDaylight would not be where it is today with him
17:59:48 <gzhao> well said, thanks LuisGomez
17:59:51 <colindixon> #info LuisGomez isn't going anywhere though
18:00:08 <colindixon> #info LuisGomez says it's really all about the community
18:00:10 <colindixon> #topic cookies
18:00:14 <colindixon> #endmeeting