#opendaylight-meeting: tsc

Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:27 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call and agenda bashing (colindixon, 17:00:32)
    1. colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:38)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=48027#Agenda agenda in the usual place (colindixon, 17:00:45)
    3. Chris Luke for Ed Warnicke (Chrisy, 17:00:48)
    4. Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 17:00:55)
    5. https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-07-21-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 17:00:57)
    6. Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 17:01:22)
    7. abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 17:01:24)
    8. gkaempfer (gkaempfer, 17:01:34)
    9. Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:01:39)
    10. Eric Multanen for Uri (snackewm, 17:01:44)
    11. adetalhouet (adetalhouet, 17:01:48)
    12. colindixon knows that skitt has proposed patches to remove a lot of our ancient dependencies (colindixon, 17:02:19)
    13. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=2041395610 (anipbu, 17:02:33)
    14. ACTION: anipbu to track the removal of ancient dependencies and readout next time how far we get (colindixon, 17:02:41)
    15. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=2041395610 anipbu is already tracking it there, so we'll just read this out next time (colindixon, 17:02:59)
    16. ACTION: colindixon to get CaseyODL to replay about nofoollow on the TSC list so we get an actual ruling (colindixon, 17:03:44)
    17. anipbu has followed up with sndinterfaceapp and they no longer depend on tcpmd5, which isn't in boron (colindixon, 17:04:17)
    18. https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/Merge-Boron/ this tab in jenkins will help us look out for failing merge jobs (thanks zxiiro ) (colindixon, 17:04:59)
    19. ACTION: anipu to follow up with relevant projects about distribution size: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007250.html (colindixon, 17:06:12)
    20. ACTION: colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion (colindixon, 17:06:20)
    21. ACTION: jamoluhrsen to send out a list of projects that would currently be labeled as experimental (the data will be from a few months ago) and ask projects to update it if they think they're no longer there (colindixon, 17:06:32)
    22. ACTION: colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon? (colindixon, 17:06:49)
    23. ACTION: phrobb to work on having a policy for how attendance to design forums works going forward with community involvement (colindixon, 17:06:54)
    24. ACTION: colindixon and phrobb to set up a poll of committers, PTLs and TSC members to see if there's a desire to have one TSC meeting a month at an APAC-friendly time (colindixon, 17:06:59)
    25. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005626.html the final proposal for TSC elections, there's a TWS on it on Monday (colindixon, 17:07:34)
    26. dfarrell07 is hoping for a vote on the remaining issues, how often to do elections, and the set of groups we want to assign seats, hopefully in a soon TSC meeting (colindixon, 17:08:09)
    27. ACTION: colindixon to add TSC elections to the agend for next week (colindixon, 17:08:22)

  2. new TSC members (colindixon, 17:08:52)
    1. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005651.html welcome Alexis de Talhouët as our newest Committer-at-Large (colindixon, 17:09:29)
    2. Thank you for your *tons of work* tony, and welcome adetalhouet! (dfarrell07, 17:10:26)
    3. rovarga is here for Jan Medved (should be in roll call above) (colindixon, 17:11:16)

  3. TSC mailing list votes and discussions (colindixon, 17:11:31)
    1. basically the same as last time, but we decided to use the last election resutls to put Alexis on the TSC (colindixon, 17:11:50)
    2. also the TSC elections thread is new (see the above link) (colindixon, 17:12:03)
    3. otherwise check the agenda (link above) (colindixon, 17:12:55)

  4. events (colindixon, 17:12:57)
    1. https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 17:13:02)
    2. non-summit openstack evenst coming up in Silicon Valley (8/9) and New York (8/23) (colindixon, 17:13:35)
    3. linuxcon NA with some ODL presence (Toronto, 8/22) (colindixon, 17:13:48)
    4. linuxcon europe is coming up 10/4-6 (dfarrell07 has a talk on that on the peformance white paper) (colindixon, 17:14:18)
    5. ACTION: phrobb to add linuxcon europe to the events list (colindixon, 17:14:26)
    6. obvoiusly ODL summit 9/27-29 (colindixon, 17:14:44)
    7. openstack sumit in Barcelona at the end of october (colindixon, 17:14:54)
    8. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Carbon_Dev_Forum submit topics for the developer design forum at the ODL summit here (colindixon, 17:16:22)

  5. boron (colindixon, 17:16:32)
    1. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007466.html <--- Ancient dependencies and third party with missing sources: snmp4sdn (anipbu, 17:17:23)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007426.html <--- We are adding license check in src/test/java and need review from netide (anipbu, 17:17:28)
    3. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007453.html <--- Documentation needs updating from: snbi, usecplugin, snmp4sdn, ovsdb, vpnservice, faas, neutron, next, nemo, nic, bgpcep, unimgr, sdninterfaceapp, natapp, usecplugin, geniusvtn, lispflowmapping, sfc, ovsdb, openflowplugin, topoprocessing, ocpplugin, aaa (anipbu, 17:17:32)
    4. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=2076007396 <--- Poll discussing project readiness issues due to the infrastructure issues (anipbu, 17:17:39)
    5. colindixon notes that the final quesetion we want to asnwer is do we delay Boron or not, if only 7 projects have responded colindixon's take is that there's not a lot of clamoring for a delay (colindixon, 17:18:43)
    6. rovarga says he's not sure if controller responded, but they've been hit pretty hard and expect it might be a bumpy ride after RC0 (colindixon, 17:19:00)
    7. the outstanding work is dealing with Akka RAFT timeouts and that is a pretty significant effort, but there may be issues (colindixon, 17:19:44)
    8. colindixon also notes that there was some discussion of delaying things to SR1, rovarag says that is the fallback plan (colindixon, 17:20:14)
    9. The Boron Autorelease job was failing this week due to compilation errors in building mdsalutil-api. Kindly request genius to fix the issues. (anipbu, 17:21:36)
    10. https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/197/org.opendaylight.genius$mdsalutil-api/ <--- Autorelease failure in genius (anipbu, 17:21:41)
    11. we will be hosting weekly IRC meetings every Wednesday at 7:30 AM Pacific Time Zone (anipbu, 17:22:06)
    12. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007491.html <--- Missing projects in Boron autorelease or distribution: atrium, cardinal, eman, honeycomb/vbd, of-config, sdninterfaceapp, usecplugin, vpnservice (anipbu, 17:22:32)
    13. rovarga says his thought is that RC0 is the drop dead date, preferrable at project's M5, preferrable even earlier than that (colindixon, 17:23:43)
    14. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC state clearly that projects not in autorelease and the distribution feature index by the RC0 build kicking off will be dropped from the Boron release?" Results are, +1: 6 (colindixon, 17:28:23)
    15. with rovaraga, Chrisy, and snackewm, that's +9 and consensus (colindixon, 17:28:47)
    16. AGREED: the TSC states clearly that projects not in autorelease and the distribution feature index by the RC0 build kicking off will be dropped from the Boron release (colindixon, 17:29:00)
    17. that RC0 is august 11th, that's 2 weeks from today (colindixon, 17:29:22)
    18. it should be noted that projects were required to be in autorelease and the distribution by M4 and M3, and the definition of RCs means that all projects must be dropped (colindixon, 17:30:14)
    19. ACTION: colindixon to work with anipbu on making this even clearer in the Carbon release plan, maybe even at M5 (colindixon, 17:30:38)
    20. Chris Luke noted he has sent a reminder to EMAN about the upcoming released timing and the lack of jobs in Jenkins (Chrisy, 17:31:08)
    21. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/openflowplugin-dev/2016-July/005615.html it appears as though the pantheon OpenFlow plugin developers won't be avialable after 8/1, despite colindixon's asking (colindixon, 17:31:32)
    22. that means that we need to continue to closely follow that risk as this is the first release with the new implementaiotn as the default, but abhijitkumbhare is tracking things (colindixon, 17:32:05)

  6. beryllium (colindixon, 17:32:12)
    1. Beryllium SR3 current has test failures in NIC and SXP in the integration distribution test job which are still under further investigation. (anipbu, 17:32:39)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Beryllium/SR3/Status <--- Beryllium SR3 Status (anipbu, 17:32:45)
    3. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hci5TMUPyB6PX8Al-fwfVqvs5SQVa2wZLja_7rKWN6o/edit#gid=1820514274 (anipbu, 17:32:52)
    4. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/nic-dev/2016-July/001379.html <--- NIC still investigating (anipbu, 17:33:46)
    5. colindixon says his take is that we should vote to allow zxiiro, anipbu and tykeal to ship it if NIC finds the issue is non-blocking (colindixon, 17:34:55)
    6. sxp has the same failure in the same way in SR1 and said it was fine, so we shouldn't worry too much about that (colindixon, 17:35:21)
    7. vishnoianil says that the test failure looks like it's just the delete status code chaing from 200 to 204 (or vice versa) and there's no real failure, because he fixed in in OVSDB, adetalhouet (whos' familiar with NIC) agrees (colindixon, 17:36:32)
    8. LuisGomez says he has a different theory, because it's passing sometimes and not other times, he's doing another test, it should be deterministic if it was the DELETE change (colindixon, 17:37:50)


Meeting ended at 17:40:02 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. anipbu to track the removal of ancient dependencies and readout next time how far we get
  2. colindixon to get CaseyODL to replay about nofoollow on the TSC list so we get an actual ruling
  3. anipu to follow up with relevant projects about distribution size: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007250.html
  4. colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion
  5. jamoluhrsen to send out a list of projects that would currently be labeled as experimental (the data will be from a few months ago) and ask projects to update it if they think they're no longer there
  6. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon?
  7. phrobb to work on having a policy for how attendance to design forums works going forward with community involvement
  8. colindixon and phrobb to set up a poll of committers, PTLs and TSC members to see if there's a desire to have one TSC meeting a month at an APAC-friendly time
  9. colindixon to add TSC elections to the agend for next week
  10. phrobb to add linuxcon europe to the events list
  11. colindixon to work with anipbu on making this even clearer in the Carbon release plan, maybe even at M5


Action items, by person

  1. anipbu
    1. anipbu to track the removal of ancient dependencies and readout next time how far we get
    2. colindixon to work with anipbu on making this even clearer in the Carbon release plan, maybe even at M5
  2. colindixon
    1. colindixon to get CaseyODL to replay about nofoollow on the TSC list so we get an actual ruling
    2. colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion
    3. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon?
    4. colindixon and phrobb to set up a poll of committers, PTLs and TSC members to see if there's a desire to have one TSC meeting a month at an APAC-friendly time
    5. colindixon to add TSC elections to the agend for next week
    6. colindixon to work with anipbu on making this even clearer in the Carbon release plan, maybe even at M5
  3. UNASSIGNED
    1. anipu to follow up with relevant projects about distribution size: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007250.html
    2. jamoluhrsen to send out a list of projects that would currently be labeled as experimental (the data will be from a few months ago) and ask projects to update it if they think they're no longer there
    3. phrobb to work on having a policy for how attendance to design forums works going forward with community involvement
    4. phrobb to add linuxcon europe to the events list


People present (lines said)

  1. colindixon (72)
  2. anipbu (14)
  3. odl_meetbot (12)
  4. dfarrell07 (8)
  5. vishnoianil (6)
  6. adetalhouet (5)
  7. Chrisy (5)
  8. ChrisPriceAB (5)
  9. abhijitkumbhare (5)
  10. snackewm (3)
  11. gkaempfer (2)


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