#opendaylight-meeting: tsc

Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:26 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 17:00:30)
    1. colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:32)
    2. gkaempfer (gkaempfer, 17:00:43)
    3. adetalhouet (adetalhouet, 17:00:58)
    4. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=48328#Agenda the agenda in it's usual place (colindixon, 17:01:00)
    5. Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:01:11)
    6. https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-08-04-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 17:01:13)
    7. Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 17:01:14)
    8. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-August/005810.html thread trying to start a fast and/or phased experience during Carbon (pull in skitt, rovarga, and edwarnicke) (colindixon, 17:01:27)
    9. https://lists.opendaylight.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc phrobb working on having a policy for how attendance to design forums works going forward with community involvement (colindixon, 17:01:38)
    10. Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 17:01:51)
    11. edwarnicke sent out his analysis out how to remove nodejs servers from people pulling in dlux to see if that helps (colindixon, 17:02:45)
    12. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/documentation/2016-August/000875.html the current process for updating what is googleable (search engine indexed) on the ODL wiki (colindixon, 17:03:20)
    13. ACTION: colindixon to document the wiki follow/nofollow somewhere https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/documentation/2016-August/000875.html (colindixon, 17:03:57)
    14. ACTION: colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon? (colindixon, 17:04:07)
    15. ACTION: colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion (colindixon, 17:04:37)
    16. abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 17:04:57)
    17. colindixon sent out a poll to all committers, ptls, primary contacts in boron, and TSC members to vote on whether we should have an APAC-friendly TSC meeting occasionally (colindixon, 17:05:24)
    18. ACTION: colindixon to e-mail out results of the APAC-time-zone poll (colindixon, 17:05:56)
    19. ACTION: phrobb to add LinuxCon Europe to the events list (colindixon, 17:06:06)
    20. ACTION: jamoluhrsen should add to the bug that we need to have the nexus file size limit set to 512 MB again (colindixon, 17:07:01)
    21. https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6341 (anipbu, 17:07:09)
    22. Mohnish Anumala (mohnish__, 17:08:04)
    23. ACTION: colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections (colindixon, 17:08:12)

  2. TSC votes (colindixon, 17:11:07)
    1. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-August/005790.html GBP comitters (colindixon, 17:11:11)

  3. events (colindixon, 17:11:20)
    1. https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 17:11:27)
    2. openstack SV just ended (colindixon, 17:11:32)
    3. comments from people on the ground were good and that lots of people and interest going by the booth, and in talks (colindixon, 17:12:12)
    4. there's a similar event OpenStack east, and OpenStack North america coming up (colindixon, 17:12:48)
    5. CFP for OpenDayligth forum india is closing, we have 30 submissions, that will be good (colindixon, 17:13:04)

  4. boron (colindixon, 17:14:52)
    1. The Boron Autorelease job is failing due to issues in building ipv6service-impl. Kindly request NETVIRT team to fix the issues (anipbu, 17:15:21)
    2. https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/211/org.opendaylight.netvirt$ipv6service-impl/ <--- Boron Autorelease failure in Netvirt (anipbu, 17:15:28)
    3. All projects in Boron have been added to the Boron Autorelease and Boron Distribution Feature Index. Many thanks to releng, integration, project PTL for addressing the issues before RC0. (anipbu, 17:15:42)
    4. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-August/007843.html <--- No projects missing from Autorelease or Distribution (anipbu, 17:15:46)
    5. We have resolved the ancient dependencies and third party with missing sources and the weather item will be closed. (anipbu, 17:15:51)
    6. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=2041395610 <--- Ancient dependencies and third party with missing sources (anipbu, 17:15:55)
    7. We are down to 418MiB with 1379 bundles for the Carbon distribution. Many thanks to Stephen, Robert, Ed, and countless other folks who chipped in for this important effort. (anipbu, 17:16:37)
    8. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=1408329875 <--- Distribution size tracking (anipbu, 17:16:41)
    9. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/43260/ (adetalhouet, 17:17:51)
    10. colindixon notes that we're still 50% bigger than we were in Beryllium-SR3 (285 MB vs. ~418 MB) (colindixon, 17:19:47)
    11. edwarnicke notes that the way the UI elements were being handled changed a lot from Be to B, and we're working on it (colindixon, 17:21:01)
    12. rovarga has identified about 50 MB of duplicate versions, we might be able to hunt it down (colindixon, 17:21:21)
    13. colindixon says thanks so much for all the hard work to get this to the point where our tests are working again (colindixon, 17:22:25)
    14. colindixon says he doesn't think further reduction (even though it would be really good) should be considered a blocker for Boron (colindixon, 17:22:41)
    15. We have completed the upgrade from Karaf 3.0.6 to Karaf 3.0.7 and the patch has been merged in odlparent and the weather item will be closed. (anipbu, 17:22:56)
    16. nobody seems to object to that (colindixon, 17:22:56)
    17. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/40818/ <--- Patch for Karaf 3.0.7 Upgrade (anipbu, 17:23:02)
    18. We will be automatically migrating project documentation from AsciiDoc to reStructuredText in Boron for the User Guide and Developer Guide. Request folks to review the plan of action and provide feedback such as opting out, etc. (anipbu, 17:23:22)
    19. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-August/007832.html <--- Boron reStructuredText Migration Plan of Action (anipbu, 17:23:27)
    20. There are plan to merge changes to the OpenFlowPlugin NSH API to Support new matches and actions in ovs nsh patch with impact to openflowplugin, sfc, netvirt, gbp (anipbu, 17:24:03)
    21. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/37937/ <--- Patch for Openflow plugin NSH API changes (anipbu, 17:24:07)
    22. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/groupbasedpolicy-dev/2016-July/003481.html <--- API Waiver Request for Openflow plugin NSH API changes (anipbu, 17:24:11)
    23. There are plans merge changes to the OpenFlowPlugin for Adding learn action with impact to netvirt, genius (anipbu, 17:24:31)
    24. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/42702/ <--- Patch for OpenFlowPlugin Add Learn Action (anipbu, 17:24:34)
    25. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/openflowplugin-dev/2016-August/005714.html <--- API Waiver Request for OpenFlowPlugin Add Learn Action (anipbu, 17:24:38)
    26. There are planned changes in the yangtools api related to BitsTypeDefinition, EnumTypeDefinition, DataNodeContainer, yang-model-api with impact to controller, mdsal and netconf (anipbu, 17:25:12)
    27. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Minor_change_of_BitsTypeDefinition_and_EnumTypeDefinition_API_in_Yangtools <--- Weather Item for Yangtools changes (anipbu, 17:25:17)
    28. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Change_of_yang-model-api_in_yangtools <--- Weather item for yang-model-api changes (anipbu, 17:25:21)
    29. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/topic:getDataChildByName <--- Patches for impacted projects (anipbu, 17:25:25)
    30. We have modified the Restconf Response. Before, when creating new resource with PUT method, status code 200 OK is returned. After, if the PUT method creates a new resource, a "201 Created" Status-Line is returned. (anipbu, 17:26:07)
    31. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/40235/ <--- Patch for Restconf Response Changes (anipbu, 17:26:32)
    32. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-August/007799.html <--- Email Thread discussing Restconf Response Changes (anipbu, 17:26:34)
    33. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Added_return_code_201_for_PUT_method_in_RESTconf <--- Weather Item tracking Restconf Response Changes (anipbu, 17:26:39)
    34. adetalhouet points out that this is basically a bug fix, fixing it internally should be manageable, the real issues is for external apps, but this will only change in a major release, where we can release note it (colindixon, 17:33:43)
    35. ACTION: anipbu to make sure we release note the change in HTTP RESTCONF REPONSE codes (colindixon, 17:34:16)
    36. ACTION: tcere to send a mail about what changed with HTTP response codes, so we can communicate it well (colindixon, 17:36:02)
    37. the agreement seems to be that the change is valid and since it's happening in a major release, we should probably stick with it unless it's going to cause massive amounts of new testing effort in fixing our tests (colindixon, 17:36:38)
    38. ACTION: colindixon to talk to LuisGomez and jamo to make sure we know what we're getting into (colindixon, 17:37:11)
    39. vrpolak points out that we're now accepting 2xx for the tests, which means we can revert without causing issues if need be (colindixon, 17:37:45)
    40. The build for RC0 will start at 23:59:59 UTC on 8/11/2016 (anipbu, 17:38:13)
    41. We conducted an informal poll of project readiness and health check for Boron. (anipbu, 17:38:22)
    42. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=199721620 <--- Informal Poll on Project Readiness (anipbu, 17:38:27)
    43. colindixon notes that the major changes coming are either bugfixes (openflowplugin) or leaf projects, with the exception of yangtools (colindixon, 17:42:23)
    44. https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/42863/ (anipbu, 17:42:38)
    45. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/netide-dev/2016-August/000102.html (anipbu, 17:42:56)
    46. colindixon thus feels like we're actually in pretty good shape about the RC0 build, assuming yangtools doesn't blow up (colindixon, 17:43:23)
    47. colindixon says that we've historically had no rules about what goes in after RCs, we've allowed non-blocker bugs and even API changes in the past (colindixon, 17:44:25)
    48. edwarnicke and colindixon say that we should strongly discourage churn for non-blocking issues, but not stop it (colindixon, 17:44:42)
    49. ACTION: colindixon to send a mail to have discussion about if we should say blocking bug fixes only during RCs in carbon (colindixon, 17:45:34)

  5. system integration and test, stable/beryllium, carbon (colindixon, 17:46:21)
    1. nothing here (colindixon, 17:46:23)

  6. infrastructure (colindixon, 17:46:29)
    1. we are still seeing nexus timeouts, we don't have a guess as to what the problem is or how to debug it (colindixon, 17:46:54)
    2. tykeal is asking the rest of the LF sysadmin team about how to go debug it (colindixon, 17:47:16)
    3. there were issues with docker images in the public cloud, those seem to be fixed (colindixon, 17:48:52)
    4. it's not taking 6 minutes to get an ssh connection vs. less than 5 in the past (colindixon, 17:49:13)
    5. validate-autorelease jobs replaced with freestyle ones and runs in 5 minutes instead of 10-15 (zxiiro, 17:49:39)

  7. archiving toolkit (colindixon, 17:51:01)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Archive_Proposals/OpenDaylight_Toolkit (colindixon, 17:51:11)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005646.html (colindixon, 17:52:03)
    3. of the 4 commiters, 2 voted +0, and one voted +1 (colindixon, 17:52:29)
    4. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC archive the toolkit project?" Results are, +1: 9 (colindixon, 17:53:45)
    5. AGREED: toolkit is archived (colindixon, 17:53:53)
    6. ACTION: colindixon to add the relevant bits on the wiki to archive toolkit (colindixon, 17:54:10)

  8. TSC elections (colindixon, 17:54:14)
    1. dfarrell07 says we have four things to do: (1) agree on the frequency of elctions, (2) dealing with issue of people representing multiple groups or projects within a group, (3) edwarnicke and colindixon auditing the stuff, (4) voting on represented groups (colindixon, 17:55:43)
    2. dfarrell07 suggests that we vote on yearly frequency (colindixon, 17:55:54)
    3. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC agree on a yearly frequency of TSC elections going forward?" Results are, +1: 10 (colindixon, 17:57:06)
    4. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Election_Proposal Framework proposal (dfarrell07, 17:57:08)
    5. AGREED: future TSC elections will have a 1-year term (colindixon, 17:57:18)
    6. phrobb notes that we wanted to kick this election off immediately after Boron, so in a 2-3 week time frame, so make this a priority (colindixon, 17:57:55)
    7. ACTION: everyone to review the other bits of the TSC elections, most noably the the represeting multiple groups or projects and picking represetned groups (colindixon, 17:58:30)
    8. abhijitkumbhare asks if we have to elect PTLs first, colindixon points that we don't mandate when PTLs are elected, committers can call for it whenever has been how it's happening in the past (colindixon, 18:00:03)
    9. ACTION: phrobb to send a mail to projects to note that who the PTL is at the end of boron has implications for the TSC election, so figured it out if you have to (colindixon, 18:00:35)

  9. cookies (colindixon, 18:00:44)


Meeting ended at 18:00:51 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. colindixon to document the wiki follow/nofollow somewhere https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/documentation/2016-August/000875.html
  2. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon?
  3. colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion
  4. colindixon to e-mail out results of the APAC-time-zone poll
  5. phrobb to add LinuxCon Europe to the events list
  6. jamoluhrsen should add to the bug that we need to have the nexus file size limit set to 512 MB again
  7. colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections
  8. anipbu to make sure we release note the change in HTTP RESTCONF REPONSE codes
  9. tcere to send a mail about what changed with HTTP response codes, so we can communicate it well
  10. colindixon to talk to LuisGomez and jamo to make sure we know what we're getting into
  11. colindixon to send a mail to have discussion about if we should say blocking bug fixes only during RCs in carbon
  12. colindixon to add the relevant bits on the wiki to archive toolkit
  13. everyone to review the other bits of the TSC elections, most noably the the represeting multiple groups or projects and picking represetned groups
  14. phrobb to send a mail to projects to note that who the PTL is at the end of boron has implications for the TSC election, so figured it out if you have to


Action items, by person

  1. anipbu
    1. anipbu to make sure we release note the change in HTTP RESTCONF REPONSE codes
  2. colindixon
    1. colindixon to document the wiki follow/nofollow somewhere https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/documentation/2016-August/000875.html
    2. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon?
    3. colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion
    4. colindixon to e-mail out results of the APAC-time-zone poll
    5. colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections
    6. colindixon to talk to LuisGomez and jamo to make sure we know what we're getting into
    7. colindixon to send a mail to have discussion about if we should say blocking bug fixes only during RCs in carbon
    8. colindixon to add the relevant bits on the wiki to archive toolkit
  3. edwarnicke
    1. colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections
  4. phrobb
    1. phrobb to add LinuxCon Europe to the events list
    2. phrobb to send a mail to projects to note that who the PTL is at the end of boron has implications for the TSC election, so figured it out if you have to
  5. UNASSIGNED
    1. jamoluhrsen should add to the bug that we need to have the nexus file size limit set to 512 MB again
    2. tcere to send a mail about what changed with HTTP response codes, so we can communicate it well
    3. everyone to review the other bits of the TSC elections, most noably the the represeting multiple groups or projects and picking represetned groups


People present (lines said)

  1. colindixon (76)
  2. anipbu (32)
  3. odl_meetbot (13)
  4. dfarrell07 (8)
  5. adetalhouet (6)
  6. vishnoianil (5)
  7. uri (4)
  8. edwarnicke (4)
  9. abhijitkumbhare (4)
  10. mohnish__ (3)
  11. gkaempfer (3)
  12. ChrisPriceAB (3)
  13. zxiiro (2)
  14. phrobb (0)


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