17:02:05 <colindixon> #startmeeting tsc
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17:02:11 <colindixon> #topic roll call and agenda bashing
17:02:13 <adetalhouet> #info adetalhouet
17:02:13 <colindixon> #info colindixon
17:02:17 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
17:02:23 <gkaempfer> #info gkaempfer
17:02:30 <colindixon> TSC members, please #info in
17:02:44 <snackewm> #info snackewm (for uri)
17:02:54 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=49407#Agenda the agenda
17:03:11 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-08-25-16.59.html last week's meeting minutes
17:03:20 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi
17:03:26 <colindixon> #info thanks to anipbu for everything, in particular running release reviews and the TSC last week
17:03:32 <jamoluhrsen> +1
17:03:40 <jamoluhrsen> awesome job anipbu
17:05:05 <mohnish__> #info mohnish anumala
17:05:45 <adetalhouet> Hold a TSC call at an APAC-friendly time?
17:05:52 <adetalhouet> subject of the mail send for the poll
17:05:59 <colindixon> Hold a TSC call at an APAC-friendly time?
17:06:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price (oops forgot to do this)
17:06:14 <colindixon> #Info the subject line for the APAC time-zone poll was "Hold a TSC call at an APAC-friendly time?"
17:06:19 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
17:06:45 <colindixon> #info it was sent on 8/11 at 12:50p eastern time
17:06:50 <abhijitkumbhare> (I too had forgotten to info in - as well as the APAC friendly time)
17:07:52 <zxiiro> I don't think I saw it either
17:08:00 <colindixon> #action colindixon to work with phrobb about checking if committers just failed entirely
17:08:20 <colindixon> #undo
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17:08:32 <colindixon> #action colindixon to work with phrobb about checking if the committers list just failed entirely for sending the APAC time poll
17:08:54 <colindixon> #action colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon?
17:09:06 <colindixon> #action dfarrell07 colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion
17:09:12 <CaseyODL> dfarrell07: You are a member of the committers list.
17:10:47 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen says that all systme test patches to deal with HTTP response code changes exist, but not all are merged, thus not needing a knob seems likely
17:11:17 <colindixon> #action rovarga will follow up with jira, group management, and user provisioning
17:11:49 <colindixon> #topic TSC mailing list discussions
17:11:57 <CaseyODL> Couldn't find the email in the list archive. :(
17:12:05 <colindixon> #info check the agend, nothing really big new except progress on the elections
17:12:30 <colindixon> #topic events
17:12:40 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events
17:12:48 <colindixon> CaseyODL: I dind't get a bounce
17:12:53 <colindixon> is it waiting for review
17:13:16 <vrpolak> What is the e-mail address of "committers list"? I do not see anything like that in listing of ODL mailing list archives: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/
17:13:29 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Boron_Dev_Forum submit topics for the DDF
17:14:11 <phrobb> #undo
17:14:30 <colindixon> #chair phrobb
17:14:30 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: colindixon phrobb
17:14:33 <phrobb> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Carbon_Dev_Forum
17:14:39 <colindixon> #undo
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17:14:43 <colindixon> phrobb: you're up
17:15:05 <colindixon> #info the voting URL was released from the committer list queue, so all committers should be receiving it
17:17:01 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Carbon_Dev_Forum submit DDF topics ASAP
17:17:23 <colindixon> #topic boron
17:17:52 <anipbu> #info We ran into cross project breakages due to patch in SNMP4SDN.  We have reverted this patch using superpowers with approval from SNMP4SDN PTL over IRC
17:17:56 <anipbu> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/45022/   <-- Patch to fix breakages by reverting https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/44826/
17:18:00 <anipbu> #info We remind projects that only blocking bugs should be merged after RC2.
17:18:05 * dfarrell07 lost audio
17:18:50 <colindixon> dfarrell07: any better
17:19:02 <anipbu> #info RC3 is scheduled for today for 11:59 UTC time
17:19:11 <dfarrell07> colindixon: yeah, I'm back
17:19:19 <anipbu> #info We have 15 blocking bugs: https://bugs.opendaylight.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=WAITING_FOR_REVIEW&f1=cf_target_milestone&f2=cf_target_milestone&j_top=OR&list_id=64394&o1=substring&o2=equals&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=boron&v2=---
17:19:24 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that he and others are in discussions with how to fix snmp4sdn, but it might be bad for Boron launch
17:19:33 <anipbu> #info We have 8 projects in red, 13 projects not tested.  35 projects reporting green https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=199721620
17:25:15 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke asks if we should delay RC3 as does anipbu
17:25:39 <colindixon> #info colindixon points out that the only thing that's special about RC3 is that we drop the -RC suffix and that we lock the branch save for blocking bugs
17:26:17 <colindixon> #info the first one is just syntax and that's fine, the second one has real ramifications
17:26:30 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if locking the branches tomorrow at 23:59 UTC would help?
17:27:47 <colindixon> #agree the earliest we will lock the stable/boron branch is 23:59 UTC on Friday, 9/2
17:28:09 <colindixon> #action anipbu to send out mail asking if that's enough time before requiring releng to merge patches
17:28:20 <rovarga> #info rovarga for jmedved (sorry for being late)
17:28:33 <colindixon> rovarga: are you on audio
17:30:09 <colindixon> #info rovarga says from his take his only tracked blocker will be resolved today, so he doesn't care, but other projects in red means that it might be too early, he suggests reevaluating tomorrow
17:31:29 <anipbu> #info release review in progress: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=1708916020
17:33:17 <colindixon> #info anipbu says he thinks that by monday or tuesday we should have all the blocking bugs fixed
17:33:55 <colindixon> #info abhijitkumbhare says that he doesn't think the 3 openflow blockers can't be fixed in the next 1 or 2 days
17:35:11 <colindixon> #Info abhijitkumbhare says that he's currently hoping to get blockers fixed by Wednesday or Thursday
17:35:34 <colindixon> #action anipbu, colindixon, LuisGomez, abhijitkumbhare and others to iterate on solutions to the OFP clustering blocker offline
17:36:26 <colindixon> #info anipbu notes that if it's reall not fixed and thus respun until W-Th next week, there's really no way to get people to vote go/no-go by then
17:36:43 <colindixon> #Info phrobb asks about holding frim to a 9/8 release date
17:37:14 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that the public release is happening on Monday, 9/12
17:40:52 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen, rovarga, and others say we really probably can't realistically hit 9/12, it would be at the least a herculean effort to get things done
17:41:54 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks what the risk is of delaying making this decision by a week, doens't get a clean answer
17:42:53 <jamoluhrsen> lol edwarnicke
17:43:09 <edwarnicke> jamoluhrsen: Thank you thank you, I'll be here all meeting, try the veal...
17:43:49 <colindixon> #info vina_ermagan asks if we can just change the dates and do press briefings as normal, phrobb says sort of, that's part of the embargo date
17:45:49 <colindixon> #info colindixon channels vina_ermagan and basically asks if we were to focus on only avoiding regressions, would we be able to ship earlier? LuisGomez, vishnoianil, and anipbu say that the key bugs are blockers because of new default implementations of openflowplugin and netvirt which are regressions from prior releases
17:45:56 <colindixon> #info in essence that means it doesn't help
17:47:09 <ChrisPriceAB> I'm strongly on the fence
17:47:25 <vina_ermagan> ChrisPriceAB :)
17:47:36 <colindixon> #Info colindixon agrees with edwarnicke, who says we probably need to wait until we have more information tomorrow or early next
17:47:51 <tykeal> tsc members have become "big game"?
17:48:10 * edwarnicke is in an undisclosed country
17:48:24 <ChrisPriceAB> Ed is out on the range!!!
17:48:31 <tykeal> challenging colindixon's tracking capabilities?
17:48:44 <rovarga> who let edwarnicke out?! :-)
17:49:22 <edwarnicke> rovarga: I wasn't released, I escaped leaving a bloody trail of QA engineers behind him...
17:49:22 <colindixon> #action colindixon notes that he will hunt TSC members for sport and votes (but mostly votes) and he'll try to reach TSC members on Tuesday to get a revised plan if we need one
17:50:08 <colindixon> #info ChrisPriceAB says that a slip would mean that OPNFV would take what we give them within reason on the 9th
17:50:48 <colindixon> #info OPNFV ships on the 22nd, things should be frozen now, but if major major blocking bugs were fixed in the week or so, they'd have to think hard about taking them
17:53:45 <tykeal> we merged the change to strip it earlier this morning ;)
17:54:03 <vina_ermagan> colindixon: got it, thanks.
17:55:03 <colindixon> #info rovarga points out that this is the 3rd release where we've been in this situation, rovarga asks if make sense that we should add another week between RC3 and the release, or locking the branches at RC2
17:55:08 <jamoluhrsen> +1 to branch locking earlier
17:55:44 <colindixon> #topic infrastructure
17:56:24 <colindixon> #info we had two LF outages for 30-45 mintues each, 5 hours apart because of DNS outages, because of a technician in the data center installing network security cameras and they accidentally unplugged us
17:56:56 <colindixon> #Info also getting DNS servers to be more robust going forward
17:57:24 <colindixon> #info we still have some nexus timeouts, tykeal is asking about a throttled network that might be causing some of these issues, we're working on it
17:57:35 <colindixon> #topic Anu Marciano on NIC
17:57:49 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-September/005905.html
17:58:16 <colindixon> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/owner:anu.mercian%2540hpe.com+status:merged merged patches
17:58:29 <adetalhouet> "she"
17:59:08 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC approve Anu as committer on NIC? -1,0,+1
17:59:08 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC approve Anu as committer on NIC? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
17:59:08 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
17:59:09 <rovarga> #vote +1
17:59:10 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:59:11 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:59:12 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:59:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1
17:59:13 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:59:13 <mohnish__> #vote +1
17:59:14 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:59:14 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
17:59:16 <adetalhouet> #vote +1
17:59:16 <snackewm> #vote +1
17:59:23 <colindixon> #endvote
17:59:23 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve Anu as committer on NIC?" Results are
17:59:23 <odl_meetbot> +1 (11): mohnish__, gkaempfer, rovarga, adetalhouet, ChrisPriceAB, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, colindixon, abhijitkumbhare, snackewm, vishnoianil
17:59:28 <dfarrell07> ^^we're getting good at that :)
17:59:50 <colindixon> #agree Anu Marciano is a comitter on NIC
17:59:52 * ChrisPriceAB runs out to buy a lottery ticket
17:59:52 <vishnoianil> dfarrell07, or everybody has voting bots on irc :P
18:00:06 <colindixon> #topic elections
18:00:12 <colindixon> #info there's been a lot of good progress on the mailing list
18:00:20 * ChrisPriceAB doesn't have his bot on the lists... :(
18:00:22 <colindixon> #info we might start a vote (or two) there
18:00:43 <colindixon> #topic cookies
18:00:45 <ChrisPriceAB> #info nom nom
18:00:50 <colindixon> #endmeeting