18:00:40 <colindixon> #startmeeting TSC 18:00:40 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 9 18:00:40 2017 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 18:00:40 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:00:40 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 18:00:46 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing and roll call 18:00:50 <colindixon> TSC members please #info in 18:00:52 <colindixon> #info colindixon 18:01:05 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=52940#Agenda 18:01:19 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-02-02-18.00.html last week's meeting minutes 18:01:33 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez 18:01:40 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare 18:01:42 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen 18:01:44 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi 18:01:49 <rovarga> #info rovarga 18:02:03 <hideyuki> #info hideyuki 18:02:14 <colindixon> #action colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way 18:02:15 <colindixon> #action colindixon and zxiiro to work on trying to build tools to help with what's failing on failures in our jenkins jobs 18:02:16 <colindixon> #action phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials 18:02:17 <colindixon> #action colindixon, vishnoianil, gzhao, anipbu and others to work to advertise APAC-friendly TSC calls to the India and China communities, as well as projects/PTLs in Asia 18:02:36 <skitt> #info skitt 18:03:03 <colindixon> #action anipbu will add a field for the spreadsheet/bugs on autorelease failures with short root cause analysis of how it got through verify without breaking 18:05:12 <colindixon> #topic Katie will be the new ODL Release manager 18:05:42 <shague> #info shague 18:05:47 <colindixon> #info Katie will be replacing An as the release manager for OpenDaylight, expect the e-mails that woudl come from An to come from her instead 18:05:47 <zxiiro> #info Thanh 18:06:07 <colindixon> #info anipbu will still be a TSC member and broadly involved 18:06:52 <colindixon> #info colindixon says it would be almost impossible to overstate how important anipbu has been to OpenDayligth over the last year or so 18:07:00 <abhijitkumbhare> +1 colindixon 18:07:00 <vishnoianil> +10 to what colin said 18:07:07 <LuisGomez> +1 18:07:11 <dfarrell07> big thanks to anipbu, huge help to odl 18:07:26 <jamoluhrsen> anipbu has been huge for us. big thanks. 18:07:53 <colindixon> and to be clear anipbu isn't going anywhere 18:08:13 <jamoluhrsen> yeah, but what's he going to do with all the free time? 18:08:31 <colindixon> #topic carbon readout 18:08:35 <colindixon> #info Missing M3 Status from snmp,atrium,capwap,cardinal,centinel,didm,eman,integration/distribution,iotdm,lacp,natapp,netide,next,of-config,opflex,sdninterfaceapp,snbi,usecplugin,vpnservice,yang-push,yangide 18:08:42 <dfarrell07> jamoluhrsen: contribute to release/test automation? ;) 18:09:05 <colindixon> #Info note that snmp is the only one from offset 1 and nobody is from offset 0 has failed to send it out 18:09:14 <jamoluhrsen> dfarrell07: would be awesome :) 18:09:29 <colindixon> #info for offset 0, we only have an M4 readout from odlparent, all others are currently missing 18:09:37 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Detection_of_identifier_collisions_according_to_RFC_6020_.2F_RFC_7950 <--- Extends current detection of identifier collisions 18:10:33 <colindixon> #topic boron 18:10:36 <colindixon> #info nothing this week 18:10:52 <colindixon> #topic next week's TSC call 18:11:06 <colindixon> #info should we have one during the leadership summit 18:11:16 <colindixon> #link overlaps with two kenotes https://osleadershipsummit2017.sched.com/event/9Jzh 18:11:30 <jamoluhrsen> no tsc. 18:11:33 <colindixon> #link one keynote has Neela speaking https://osleadershipsummit2017.sched.com/event/9Jzj/keynote-collaborative-project-updates-odp-cncf-openswitch-cii 18:11:42 <zxiiro> No TSC 18:11:46 * dfarrell07 would rather not have unless pressing issues 18:11:53 * dfarrell07 will be in tahoe 18:12:00 <rovarga> dfarrell07: +1 18:12:13 <colindixon> #startvote will you be in tahoe next week? yes,no 18:12:13 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: will you be in tahoe next week? Valid vote options are yes, no. 18:12:13 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 18:12:15 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 18:12:15 <odl_meetbot> vishnoianil: +1 is not a valid option. Valid options are yes, no. 18:12:17 <jamoluhrsen> #vote: yes 18:12:17 <odl_meetbot> jamoluhrsen: : yes is not a valid option. Valid options are yes, no. 18:12:18 <colindixon> #vote yes 18:12:22 <vishnoianil> #vote yes 18:12:24 <zxiiro> #vote yes 18:12:26 <LuisGomez> #vote yes 18:12:28 <hideyuki> #vote no 18:12:28 <skitt> #vote no 18:12:28 <rovarga> #vote no 18:12:31 <shague> #vote no 18:12:36 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote yes 18:12:36 <jamoluhrsen> #vote yes 18:12:44 <vrpolak> #vote no 18:12:53 <colindixon> #endvote 18:12:53 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "will you be in tahoe next week?" Results are 18:12:53 <odl_meetbot> yes (6): LuisGomez, colindixon, jamoluhrsen, zxiiro, vishnoianil, abhijitkumbhare 18:12:53 <odl_meetbot> no (5): shague, hideyuki, rovarga, skitt, vrpolak 18:13:28 <colindixon> #starvote shall the TSC cancle next week's (2/16/17) TSC call? -1,0,+1 18:13:33 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC cancle next week's (2/16/17) TSC call? -1,0,+1 18:13:33 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC cancle next week's (2/16/17) TSC call? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 18:13:33 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 18:13:43 <colindixon> #vote +1 18:13:44 <zxiiro> #vote +1 18:13:46 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 18:13:46 <rovarga> #vote +1 18:13:47 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1 18:13:50 <hideyuki> #vote +1 18:13:53 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 18:13:54 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1 18:13:56 <skitt> #vote +1 18:13:59 <shague> #vote +1 18:14:16 <colindixon> #endvote 18:14:16 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC cancle next week's (2/16/17) TSC call?" Results are 18:14:16 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): rovarga, skitt, LuisGomez, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, jamoluhrsen, zxiiro, vishnoianil, abhijitkumbhare 18:14:38 <colindixon> #agreed there will be no TSC meeting next week 18:14:56 <colindixon> #action phrobb to set up a phone bridge for remote participation at the TSC mixer and send that out to the TSC members 18:15:11 <colindixon> #topic TSC mailing list votes and discussions 18:15:24 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006577.html Nitrogen planning 18:15:37 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006581.html Namespace management 18:16:11 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006578.html projects with few/no active committers 18:16:19 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009034.html flagship features in Carbon 18:16:30 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006579.html dropping Carbon hackfest date/location 18:16:54 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006580.html dropping off-cycle releases 18:17:24 <colindixon> #action colindixon to remove carbon hackfest and off-cycle releases from discussions list on next week's agenda 18:18:09 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-February/009226.html [release] deprecate port 8080 (or 8181) so we only bring up one port? 18:18:38 <colindixon> #topic Karaf 4 upgrade 18:18:44 <colindixon> #info we've progressed as far as NETCONF 18:18:55 <colindixon> #info rovarga says that we're looking at some issues in AAA 18:19:35 <colindixon> #info most projects are blocked on dlux needing Karaf 4 features for downstreams, the patch is ready, but hasn't been merged 18:20:33 <colindixon> #action colindixon will try to scare up a dlux committer to merge the karaf 4 patch 18:20:40 <colindixon> #Info offset 1 and 2 projects should start the migration 18:21:16 <colindixon> #action katie to start tracking karaf 4 on the tracking spreadsheet with help from anipbu if needed 18:21:48 <rovarga> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=4219&hide_resolved=1 18:21:52 <skitt> #link dependency tree for the Karaf 4 migration: https://bugs.opendaylight.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=4219&hide_resolved=1 18:22:05 <rovarga> #link patches: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/topic:karaf4 18:23:03 <colindixon> #action vrpolak to start thinking about how to create a karaf 4 distribtion and when, maybe send mail 18:23:17 <colindixon> #topic events 18:23:25 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events 18:23:51 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main 18:24:48 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main#ODL_Nitrogen_Developer_Design_Forum we are locking down the Nitrogen DDF date for 5/31/17 and 6/1/17 18:25:23 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main#OPNFV_Summit OPNFV summit in beijing's CFP will open next week, we're pretty sure 18:25:49 <colindixon> #info leadership summit in Tahoe next week 18:26:10 <colindixon> #info the expectation is to have notices out to all accepted ONS presenters by the end of the month 18:26:30 <colindixon> #info the OpenStack CFP has been left open until today, so please submit if you haven't 18:26:50 <colindixon> #topic system integration and test 18:27:29 <colindixon> #info now that we've moved jobs to running only 5 days a week, makes infrastructure issues more noticeable at times 18:28:04 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen says that they're looking into trying to debug that with rackspace 18:28:54 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen says they're trying to retry on failures, but LuisGomez has pointed out that's just maksing issues rackspace is having 18:29:01 <abhijitkumbhare> phrobb - who from Linux Foundation (non TSC or board) attending the Tahoe event next week? Just curious.. 18:29:16 <colindixon> #topic infrastructure 18:29:58 <colindixon> #info yesterday, we noticed that rackspace was sending 503 errors to our CSIT jobs when we tried to spawn some things, rackspace says it's fixed, but jamoluhrsen says maybe not, let zxiiro and others know on the mailing list if we still see them 18:30:12 <zxiiro> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/51096 Autorelease Auto Notify Patch 18:30:15 * jamoluhrsen thinks it would be good to have some period of time when the name RackSpace didn't really come up. 18:30:33 <colindixon> #info we're working on a patch to make autorelease notify projects when the build breaks 18:31:07 <colindixon> #topic nitrogen planning 18:31:18 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006577.html 18:33:06 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005665.html previous thead on twice per year release process 18:33:17 * rovarga is just not taking the flamebait :) 18:34:04 <tykeal> now I'm wishing I was on the call just to know what flamebait rovarga is taking ;) 18:34:16 <rovarga> tykeal: version ranges :) 18:34:16 <tykeal> or not taking 18:34:22 <tykeal> heh 18:35:24 <colindixon> #info skitt points out that colindixon's naive idea of just publishing a version on each merge is the same as SNAPSHOTs 18:35:55 <colindixon> #info skitt then says what we really need is some way to actually define what semantic versioning is and then how we will do that 18:36:33 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that yang tools has things they want to do in a v2.0 release, but doing so somewhat breaks the autorelease release model 18:38:46 <colindixon> #info rovarg and skitt seem to think that we need to be able to have multiple branches; each with a different release train; and also need to have all projects move to a release-based model 18:41:30 <phrobb> abhijitkumbhare: Who from the LF? I'm not sure what you are asking 18:41:58 <colindixon> #info skitt says that he thinks there is something good to do here, but we can start with odlparent, yangtools, and maybe mdsal, which would give a good playground 18:41:59 <abhijitkumbhare> Well - for start - are you or CaseyODL attending? :) 18:42:26 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that we need to start with when we cut the carbon stability branches 18:42:38 <colindixon> #info skitt says that you can always fix that later 18:42:45 <phrobb> abhijitkumbhare: both myself, Casey, as well as Andy and Thanh 18:42:47 <CaseyODL> Yes. :) 18:42:55 <abhijitkumbhare> great! :) 18:43:13 <colindixon> #action colindixon to set up some kind fo meeting (or at least thead) about semantic-versioning-ish things for nitrogen 18:44:27 <colindixon> #topic cookies 18:44:45 <colindixon> #endmeeting