17:05:06 <CaseyLF> #startmeeting tsc
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17:05:12 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen
17:05:20 <abhijitk> #info abhijitk
17:05:24 <jamoluhrsen> #info shague (proxy via jamoluhrsen)
17:05:30 <zxiiro> #info Thanh Ha
17:05:31 <CaseyLF> #chair dfarrell07 abhijitk zxiiro
17:05:31 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyLF abhijitk dfarrell07 zxiiro
17:06:03 <dfarrell07> I'm otw, sorry late
17:06:06 <abhijitk> Still no joy
17:06:12 <dfarrell07> trying to eat a bit between meetings..
17:06:15 <vorburger> #info vorburger
17:06:21 <skitt> #info skitt
17:06:29 <faseelak> #info faseelak
17:06:31 <lori> #project lispflowmapping
17:06:41 <CaseyLF> abhijitk: 669 900 6833
17:06:45 <jmorvay> #info jmorvay
17:06:46 <CaseyLF> Call in
17:06:52 <premsankar> #info premsankar #project coe
17:06:54 <jmorvay> #project netconf
17:07:01 <faseelak> #project coe genius serviceutils odltools
17:07:25 <rovarga> #info rovarga
17:07:27 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez
17:07:46 <rovarga> #project odlparent yangtools controller mdsal infrautils bgpcep coretutorials
17:08:04 <skitt> #project ovsdb netvirt odlparent controller integration/distribution
17:08:21 <vorburger> #project archetypes daexim genius infrautils neutron odlparent serviceutils
17:08:42 <CaseyLF> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:2019_TAC_Election
17:12:13 <abhijitk> #topic LFN Booth Demo at the ONS North America
17:16:02 <abhijitk> #info Step 1) a quick discussion on this in Jan 24 TSC meeting
17:16:18 <abhijitk> #info Step 2) let folks go back to think about demo ideas, send their proposals to the TSC/release mailing lists (and have a wiki or google doc for each proposal) and have folks present their demo ideas in the TWS session on Feb 4th - and also collaborate
17:16:30 <abhijitk> #info Step 3) If there are multiple ideas - we can rank them from the ODL perspective in the TSC meeting on Feb 7.
17:16:44 <abhijitk> #info Step 4) Further fine tuning discussion/collaboration in the TWS of Feb 11 & then the TSC actually submit ALL the proposals (with ODL ranking/priority) to Brandon Wick of LF Marketing before the deadline of Feb 13
17:22:37 <abhijitk> #topic Neon Release
17:22:38 <jamoluhrsen> #link https://docs.opendaylight.org/en/latest/release-process/release-schedule.html?highlight=release%20schedule <-- release schedule
17:23:14 <abhijitk> #link https://docs.opendaylight.org/en/latest/release-process/release-schedule.html
17:28:20 <jamoluhrsen> why is fluorine having this 6 weeks stuff, but Sodium does not?
17:28:43 <skitt> #info the question of the freeze / branch-cut schedule comes up
17:29:04 <skitt> #info rovarga points out that we can't split them because we can't block an open source project
17:29:31 <skitt> #info as opposed to company-internal where it's possible to force people to work on stabilising a release after a freeze before cutting branches
17:29:57 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: what do you mean it does not?
17:30:12 <jamoluhrsen> rovarga: am I reading it wrong?
17:30:45 <skitt> #info the underlying question is how to enforce a feature freeze as opposed to a code freeze, which is why the feature freeze was dropped from the schedule
17:31:09 <jamoluhrsen> rovarga: sodium is 5 weeks, I see. so fluorine was 4w, neon is 6w and sodium is 6w
17:33:50 <skitt> #startvote Does the TSC agree to institute the code freeze for Neon on February 7th (back from today)? -1, 0, +1
17:33:50 <odl_meetbot> Only the meeting chair may start a vote.
17:34:17 <dfarrell07> #chair skitt
17:34:17 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyLF abhijitk dfarrell07 skitt zxiiro
17:34:21 <abhijitk> #startvote Does the TSC agree to institute the code freeze for Neon on February 7th (back from today)? -1, 0, +1
17:34:21 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Does the TSC agree to institute the code freeze for Neon on February 7th (back from today)? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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17:34:27 <abhijitk> #vote +1
17:34:28 <skitt> #vote +1
17:34:28 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1
17:34:30 <zxiiro> #vote +1
17:34:31 <premsankar> #vote +1
17:34:36 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: ah, yes, that is a discrepancy because the final checkpoint is defined in terms of start+X weeks, whereas the release date is in terms of start + X months
17:34:41 <vorburger> #vote +1
17:34:46 <faseelak> #vote +1
17:34:47 <rovarga> #vote +1
17:34:50 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
17:35:00 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:35:12 <jamoluhrsen> rovarga: got it. the idea is for 6 weeks though, right?
17:35:24 <aadam> #info Sam owes Jamo a beer :-)
17:35:35 <dfarrell07> #endvote
17:35:36 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Does the TSC agree to institute the code freeze for Neon on February 7th (back from today)?" Results are
17:35:36 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): rovarga, vorburger, skitt, LuisGomez, dfarrell07, faseelak, premsankar, jamoluhrsen, zxiiro, abhijitk
17:35:42 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: yes, I believe so
17:35:44 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 vote was for shague via jamoluhrsen
17:35:58 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: it's just that the instructions aligned this way
17:36:35 <abhijitk> #topic Release Dashboard
17:37:04 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: otherwise the release would have been 9/14
17:37:27 <abhijitk> #link https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403
17:37:35 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: oh, and there's one more thing
17:39:17 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: MRI integration is one week out because of ONS
17:39:32 <zxiiro> +1 to locking on next Friday
17:40:43 <abhijitk> #info aadam asks whether it is acceptable to lock Fluorine SR2 by next Friday (Feb 1)
17:41:44 <rovarga> jamoluhrsen: so that's what's wrecking the 6 weeks end window
17:42:11 <dfarrell07> #agreed we will lock the fluorine branch on feb 1 so we can do SR2 release
17:54:45 <abhijitk> #action aadam to update the release checklist to include self managed projects process
17:54:56 <dfarrell07> #action aadam to doc on rel-ideas gdoc that we need to send email blast to remind self managed projects that release is coming up, need to do xyx, send docs
17:56:23 <abhijitk> #action LuisGomez will send an email to the release mailing list about self managed projects this release
17:58:37 <abhijitk> #topic CSIT intern
18:00:49 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 will not have cycles to mentor this csit intern
18:00:59 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 requests someone else step up to help
18:01:14 <dfarrell07> #info idea is to do basic data analytics to find which jobs actually cost lots
18:01:29 <dfarrell07> #info from initial digging it seems the answers are surprising
18:01:41 <dfarrell07> #info then after we know what actually costs a lot, reduce costs
18:01:59 <dfarrell07> #info TSC seats
18:02:02 <dfarrell07> #undo
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18:02:06 <abhijitk> so what are the jobs that cost a lot?
18:02:07 <dfarrell07> #topic TSC seats
18:02:37 <dfarrell07> abhijitk: idk off the top of my head, but something like test sidecar VMs that just launch other VMs during tests
18:02:39 <abhijitk> don't end the meeting
18:02:59 <dfarrell07> abhijitk: ack, cool, all yours
18:02:59 <abhijitk> I want to note something after this topic
18:03:00 <dfarrell07> :)
18:03:04 <abhijitk> :)
18:04:12 <abhijitk> #info We may want to revisit the TSC elections representative groups composition for the next election cycle for TSC-2020
18:04:49 <abhijitk> #topic TAC Representative Election
18:06:27 <abhijitk> #info Suggestion to CaseyLF from the TSC was to keep the nomination for the ODL TAC rep open for one more week given that some people may not have been aware dfarrell07 is not running
18:06:38 <abhijitk> #endmeeting