================================== #opendaylight-users: advisorygroup ================================== Meeting started by phrobb_ at 16:02:05 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-users/2015/advisorygroup/opendaylight-users-advisorygroup.2015-10-22-16.02.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Beau Williamson (gzhao, 16:03:05) * Chris Luke (gzhao, 16:03:13) * Jamil (gzhao, 16:03:27) * Gail-Joon Ahn (gzhao, 16:03:45) * Padro (gzhao, 16:03:57) * LINK: https://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uberconference.com%2Fu%2F75174476&ust=1445536782778000&usg=AFQjCNHJLnih8-WWmltDs5iXJRB1SFwS7g -- uberconfernece URL (phrobb_, 16:04:01) * Margaret (gzhao, 16:05:46) * Ju Lim (gzhao, 16:05:52) * Alex Zhang (gzhao, 16:06:13) * Neela talked about met KT people in Dusseldorf that showed a demo based on ODL helium, but not using any ODL southbound. (gzhao, 16:07:47) * Neela added KT into his keynote at Dusseldorf. (gzhao, 16:08:39) * ACTION: Alex Zhang will send out his slides to the group he did in ODL Euro summit in Dusseldorf. (gzhao, 16:09:24) * Neela notes that TeliaSonera are beginning with OpenDaylight. They have just joined as members and will be joining the AG in the near future (gzhao, 16:10:49) * Boron Discussion (gzhao, 16:10:58) * Chris Luke introduces colindixon to talk about early Boron planning and request for input from the AG on it (phrobb_, 16:11:21) * colindixon notes there is no boron release plan yet, and more planning should do from previous lessons. (gzhao, 16:11:48) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-October/003849.html (colindixon, 16:12:29) * there is thread on mailing list for discussion about boron (gzhao, 16:13:13) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2015-October/003849.html (gzhao, 16:13:15) * colindixon notes what we want to delver is not something technical community is good at (gzhao, 16:14:00) * Margaret answered TSC wants AG to set priorities. (gzhao, 16:14:34) * colindixon asks timing for 6 months whether is too slow or too fast (gzhao, 16:15:54) * colindixon said second thing is upgrade. (gzhao, 16:16:08) * Alex said 6 month for major release and minor release in between (gzhao, 16:16:58) * colindixon notes this is about the same as ODL current is doing, have release for 6 months and 4 SR releases (gzhao, 16:17:49) * Beau says in service provider have upgrade every 6 months is crazy. (gzhao, 16:19:30) * Beau says cisco release IOS in regular basis, but more in once a year frequency. (gzhao, 16:20:39) * Margaret said ATT develop heavily on ODL , the question is whether to upgrade every 6 month, also upgrade from A->B->C, can be done A->C (gzhao, 16:23:07) * colindixon notes 6 months is about right, in production the upgrade is slower. (gzhao, 16:24:10) * currently TSC requires supporting two releases, current and previous (gzhao, 16:27:09) * Chris L said only working features will be put into production. (gzhao, 16:28:50) * colindixon asks when peopel upgrade and how long they will need support as a consequence, also if the Ubuntu-style LTS model makes sense (colindixon, 16:30:35) * one answer is that it's not clear the LTS model applies to networking, generally they upgrade when they need a new feature (colindixon, 16:31:11) * phrobb_ says that lot of oranizations in the more devops space, there are people for whom upgrading all the time is now normal (colindixon, 16:31:44) * many people say that's different if you're in a data center where you can use spare servers when things fail, ISPs don't have spare users to use if they can't provide service to their current users (colindixon, 16:32:24) * phrobb_ notes that we have RCs during a release typcially at the end, does it make sense to provide RCs to customers to get test results, is that something users woudl be willing to do? (colindixon, 16:39:58) * neela suggests that there are ways to take focus areas and test them more aggressively internally or externally to provide a stronger, more reliable set of functionality in that area (colindixon, 16:40:46) * colindixon asks what features are missing?... SNMP traps?... etc. We hear docs and migration/upgrade support are important. (phrobb_, 16:45:30) * Margaret Chiosi notes that a pan-controller method of interacting with Neutron for example would be helpful (phrobb_, 16:46:11) * where pan-controller == all the different controllers that are out there besides ODL (phrobb_, 16:46:51) * Margaret notes we all want to collect data, triggers, stats, alerts, etc. We need to save this data for analysis. What "is the way" to do that? (phrobb_, 16:48:39) * does ODL community have a series of apps that will be common/supported? There is functionality commonly needed by all users. Will there be apps from the ODL community or will this just come from vendors/proprietary? (phrobb_, 16:50:35) * todd said in next AG meeting, Tencent is going to sare their use cases. (gzhao, 16:59:50) Meeting ended at 17:00:20 UTC. People present (lines said) --------------------------- * gzhao (32) * phrobb_ (13) * colindixon (11) * odl_meetbot (6) * tbenzies (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4