#opendaylight-meeting: TSC

Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:19 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 17:00:33)
    1. mohnish anumala (mohnish_, 17:00:38)
    2. colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:53)
    3. edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:01:00)
    4. Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:01:00)
    5. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=44540#Agenda the agenda for today it's usual place (colindixon, 17:01:18)
    6. Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 17:01:26)
    7. gkaempfer (gkaempfer, 17:01:28)
    8. https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-03-17-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 17:01:32)
    9. ACTION: colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron? (colindixon, 17:01:52)
    10. LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:02:37)
    11. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004899.html maintaining cleaner committer lists (colindixon, 17:02:44)
    12. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004933.html thread on openflow plugin lessons learned (colindixon, 17:03:01)
    13. ACTION: zxiiro will look more into maven central now that we're at least signing things (colindixon, 17:03:16)
    14. ACTION: ChrisPriceAB and phrobb_ have heather come and talk to the ODL community about how to have a bigger presence at OpenStack (colindixon, 17:03:36)

  2. TSC mailling list votes and discussions (colindixon, 17:03:56)
    1. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-February/004633.html tsc election discussion (colindixon, 17:04:27)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004922.html meeting minutes from the Board-tech commmunity regarding TSC elections (colindixon, 17:05:04)
    3. after some time for that to quiesce, phrobb will start a movement to makre progress (colindixon, 17:05:21)
    4. ACTION: phrobb to drive progress on TSC elections (colindixon, 17:05:29)
    5. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004881.html MPLS-TP project has asked for a creation review over e-mail because of time zone differences (colindixon, 17:06:09)
    6. colindixon's inclination is to start a creation review thread to ask for feedback by next week, and the vote in person next week or over e-mail next week (colindixon, 17:07:39)
    7. ACTION: colindixon to start creation review thread for MPLS-TP (colindixon, 17:07:48)
    8. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-March/000447.html second MPLS-TP-related project proposal (colindixon, 17:08:06)
    9. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-March/000454.html some discussion about commonality between the two MPLS-TP project prooposals (colindixon, 17:08:34)

  3. events (colindixon, 17:09:35)
    1. ACTION: colindixon to figure out when we're willing to make the Boron release plan as something that's not tentative (colindixon, 17:10:12)
    2. https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 17:10:25)
    3. phrobb asks when we'd like to do a hackfest for Boron, right now that would be at the end of June (colindixon, 17:10:38)
    4. colindixon, jamoluhrsen, and dfarrell07 say they'd like to have one (colindixon, 17:10:48)
    5. ACTION: phrobb to send out a thread about a hackfest at the end of june (colindixon, 17:11:03)
    6. tykeal notes that the last week in june is the week after the OPNFV summit in berlin (colindixon, 17:11:23)
    7. OpenStack is the last week in April, peoople make be reaching out for demos at the booth (colindixon, 17:11:39)
    8. there's a mini-summit for ODL at the OPNFV summit in Berlin (colindixon, 17:11:53)
    9. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1hfYPBqK4B6vtSRdhyT5Gbq7aMRjJs7fPzbVl31OEL7M/viewform CFP for ODL mini-summit at the OPNFV summit in Berlin (colindixon, 17:12:25)
    10. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opnfv-summit/program/cfp OPNFV Summit CFP, closes end of the month (ChrisPriceAB, 17:13:12)

  4. boron (colindixon, 17:13:41)
    1. Please provide feedback to OpenFlowPlugin by April 7. Meeting on April 4 during TWS to discuss issues/concerns/bugs with OpenFlowPlugin migration efforts. (anipbu, 17:13:59)
    2. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Unmerged_Patch_for_projects_to_test_OpenFlow_Plugin_default_design_to_Lithium (anipbu, 17:14:05)
    3. We are missing the M1 status report from l2switch, snmp, tcpmd5. These projects have been notified. (anipbu, 17:14:12)
    4. Boron M1 Offset 2 Status is due Today 3/24. This is assuming that we keep with the provisional (anipbu, 17:14:18)

  5. stable/beryllium (colindixon, 17:14:27)
    1. Beryllium-SR1 was shipped, the branch is unlocked, versions were bumped (colindixon, 17:14:39)
    2. next release is on 4/28 with a cutoff of the sunday before at 11:59p UTC (colindixon, 17:14:54)

  6. system integration and test (colindixon, 17:15:03)
    1. integration/distribution has a new PTL vrpolak (Vratko), congrats! (colindixon, 17:15:26)
    2. there seems to be some differences between normal tests and the autorelease distributions, e.g., the port conflict issue between NetIDE and VPN service (colindixon, 17:16:12)
    3. the TWS on Monday will cover (at least for part of it) the changing use of experimental features (colindixon, 17:16:29)
    4. jamoluhrsen would like to ask for test contacts to attend (colindixon, 17:16:48)
    5. abhijitkumbhare notes that Monday is a holiday in europe (colindixon, 17:17:14)
    6. ACTION: colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing (colindixon, 17:17:19)
    7. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Ports the ports we use for refernece (colindixon, 17:17:42)

  7. infrastructure (colindixon, 17:17:48)
    1. the first things are moving to to the private cloud, things are going well (colindixon, 17:18:03)
    2. there will be some outages on Saturday, expect flakiness (colindixon, 17:18:15)
    3. ACTION: tykeal to forward the outage information to release@lists.opendaylight.org (colindixon, 17:19:02)
    4. this will be the last jenkins blip for a while, there will be some other outages as we upgrade our infra while we're not near the end of the release, e.g., nexus, sonar (colindixon, 17:20:25)
    5. after that, we'll be bringing up the sandbox inside the private cloud and test things (colindixon, 17:20:36)
    6. after that we'll start to plan our outage to bring jenkins into the private cloud (colindixon, 17:20:50)
    7. after that, zuul and nodepool (colindixon, 17:21:03)

  8. genius creation review (colindixon, 17:21:22)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Genius (colindixon, 17:21:31)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-March/000415.html proposed on 3/4/2016 (colindixon, 17:21:42)
    3. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/ODDF_Generic_Network_functions.pdf (daya_k, 17:22:19)
    4. this project tries to tackle application co-existences with a focus on OpenFlow (colindixon, 17:23:44)
    5. colindixon thinks the scope isn't really a scope statement, which should probably be fixed, the description comes a lot closer, so maybe just flopping the two would work? (colindixon, 17:24:47)
    6. daya_k says that the key goal is to try to minimize the design time interactions required to co-exist and instead push it to run-time (colindixon, 17:26:57)
    7. mostly focuses on OpenFlow so far, solving 3 different problems (1) the table-0 demuxing problem, (2) partitioning other resources for openfow, (3) try to allow applicattions to interact, e.g., GOTO TABLE for another app and or via MD-SAL in the control plane (colindixon, 17:28:23)
    8. daya_k talks about the interface manager (talking about network interfaces, not java interfaces) to handle port like things with tunnels, VLANs and the like (colindixon, 17:31:18)
    9. colindixon suggests maybe considering a different word than interface manager since that's going to (maybe) cause havoc because of the java keyword interface? (colindixon, 17:32:05)
    10. edwarnicke asks how this interacts with topology model, daya_k says it doesn't for right now (colindixon, 17:33:07)
    11. daya_k says that it uses the ietf-interfaces YANG data model, edwarnicke note that he has concerns about this because it's really meant for device control (colindixon, 17:33:53)
    12. Prem_ and daya_k say they'll look into this (colindixon, 17:34:00)
    13. colindixon says that he thinks moving the augmentations from ietf-interfaces to the topology model will be pretty easy (colindixon, 17:34:40)
    14. vina_ermagan asks if this is going to be speciifcally for OpenFlow devices or more generic? (colindixon, 17:35:48)
    15. daya_k says for now it's built on OpenFlow, but the plan is to make it so that it can have more southbounds for this (colindixon, 17:37:16)
    16. daya_k aslso talks about partitionion (at least virtual) OpenFlow swtiches tables into pipelines with applications having their own pipelines (colindixon, 17:38:22)
    17. shared overlay tunnel service will try to avoid each project maintaining it's own tunnels (colindixon, 17:40:09)
    18. shared aliveness monitoring to test health of tunnels (colindixon, 17:40:39)
    19. ID manager to get unique IDs in ODL, why not use UUIDs? (colindixon, 17:41:05)
    20. colindixon note that the scope and description will be flopped (buleleted list is the scope) (colindixon, 17:43:34)
    21. daya_k and other say the committer list and resources and commited resoureces are complete (colindixon, 17:44:20)
    22. +1 (gkaempfer, 17:47:26)
    23. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the genius project as an incubation project assuming that they make the above changes?" Results are, +1: 9 (colindixon, 17:48:05)
    24. rovarga proxy for jmedved (rovarga_tmp, 17:48:07)
    25. colindixon doesn't know if eshuvka_ is a TSC member or delegate, so he things that's 8 +1s (colindixon, 17:48:37)
    26. phrobb says that he notes that daya_k and Prem_ aren not committers, daya_k says yes (colindixon, 17:49:02)
    27. mohnish_ asks if being offset 1 is right, colindixon says (a) he thinks it is and (b) it's not permanent in either event (colindixon, 17:49:39)
    28. vishnoianil asks if Yi is invovled, he is (colindixon, 17:49:56)
    29. AGREED: Genius is now an incubation project (colindixon, 17:50:34)

  9. NATApp creation review (colindixon, 17:50:40)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:NATApp_Plugin (colindixon, 17:50:44)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-February/000402.html proposed on 2/23/2016 (colindixon, 17:50:57)
    3. oops no i am not (eshuvka_, 17:51:15)
    4. colindixon worries a bit about the use of the word "mostly" in the scope (colindixon, 17:52:36)
    5. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC allow the genius project to join Boron at offest 1 even though it's technically too late?" Results are, +1: 8 (colindixon, 17:54:40)
    6. AGREED: the Genius project will be allowed to join boron at offset 1 (colindixon, 17:56:15)
    7. edwarnicke points out that having a complex external dependency (like MySQL) tend to get adoped less, having it also work with easier to deploy things, e.g., sqlite might help (colindixon, 17:56:21)
    8. they say they'll look at it (colindixon, 17:56:26)
    9. further points out that sqllite itself has been problematic in the past... would counsel something like derby etc that work well portably ;) (edwarnicke, 17:56:58)
    10. rovarga_tmp asks if they plan to support things other than openflow pluging, the answer is not for right now, but they might do other things (colindixon, 17:57:13)
    11. vivek says there are plans to add NAT to the VPN service in boron as well (colindixon, 17:57:40)
    12. abhijitkumbhare says that they should be aware that they will use the lithium plugin, they will be (colindixon, 17:59:09)
    13. rovarga_tmp asks if the REST APIS will be RESTCONF, they say yes (colindixon, 17:59:37)
    14. gkaempfer encourages them to use external databases that are consitent with clustering (colindixon, 18:00:24)
    15. colindixon says they might look at TSDR, Centinel or persitence for ideas (colindixon, 18:00:40)
    16. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the NATApp project as an incubation project?" Results are, +1: 9 (colindixon, 18:02:00)
    17. AGREED: NATApp plugin is now an incubation project (colindixon, 18:02:23)
    18. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Lisp_Flow_Mapping:Graduation_Proposal (vina_ermagan, 18:02:31)
    19. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Lisp_Flow_Mapping:Graduation_Proposal (vina_ermagan, 18:02:38)

  10. LISP Flow mapping graduation review (colindixon, 18:02:47)
    1. https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Lisp_Flow_Mapping:Graduation_Proposal (colindixon, 18:02:51)
    2. https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-March/004858.html asekd for it on 3/10/2016 (colindixon, 18:03:11)
    3. been in ODL since Hydrogen (colindixon, 18:03:21)
    4. colindixon notes that they've had some of the best docs of anyone (colindixon, 18:03:30)
    5. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC allow the NATApp plugin to join Boron?" Results are, +1: 6 (colindixon, 18:04:16)
    6. AGREED: NATApp project can join boron (colindixon, 18:04:27)
    7. VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC graduate the LISP flow mapping project to mature?" Results are, +1: 7 (colindixon, 18:05:10)
    8. AGREED: LISP Flow Mapping is now a mature project (colindixon, 18:05:28)

  11. cookies (colindixon, 18:05:44)


Meeting ended at 18:06:03 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron?
  2. zxiiro will look more into maven central now that we're at least signing things
  3. ChrisPriceAB and phrobb_ have heather come and talk to the ODL community about how to have a bigger presence at OpenStack
  4. phrobb to drive progress on TSC elections
  5. colindixon to start creation review thread for MPLS-TP
  6. colindixon to figure out when we're willing to make the Boron release plan as something that's not tentative
  7. phrobb to send out a thread about a hackfest at the end of june
  8. colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing
  9. tykeal to forward the outage information to release@lists.opendaylight.org


Action items, by person

  1. ChrisPriceAB
    1. ChrisPriceAB and phrobb_ have heather come and talk to the ODL community about how to have a bigger presence at OpenStack
  2. colindixon
    1. colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron?
    2. colindixon to start creation review thread for MPLS-TP
    3. colindixon to figure out when we're willing to make the Boron release plan as something that's not tentative
    4. colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing
  3. jamoluhrsen
    1. colindixon jamoluhrsen to work on finding the best time/place to talk about experiemntal features and testing
  4. tykeal
    1. tykeal to forward the outage information to release@lists.opendaylight.org
  5. UNASSIGNED
    1. zxiiro will look more into maven central now that we're at least signing things
    2. phrobb to drive progress on TSC elections
    3. phrobb to send out a thread about a hackfest at the end of june


People present (lines said)

  1. colindixon (141)
  2. odl_meetbot (27)
  3. ChrisPriceAB (14)
  4. edwarnicke (11)
  5. dfarrell07 (8)
  6. gkaempfer (7)
  7. rovarga_tmp (7)
  8. mohnish_ (7)
  9. LuisGomez (5)
  10. vina_ermagan (4)
  11. anipbu (4)
  12. uri_ (4)
  13. abhijitkumbhare (4)
  14. eshuvka_ (3)
  15. tykeal (3)
  16. Prem_ (2)
  17. jamoluhrsen (2)
  18. daya_k (1)
  19. vishnoianil (1)


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